1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 19
    Win 10 and Win 7
       20 Jan 2016 #1

    Updating to 10 using original key from vista to 7.


    I am getting ready to upgrade to Win 10 on my Dell Studio 1535 laptop. I have been reviewing the forum to see what issues I may encounter and I have not encountered a solution (that may mean I did not understand) . First, I do have a legal copy (3) of win 7 home premium. I bought an upgrade for 3 PC’s sometime back. I upgraded from vista to 7. Over the course of the last 5 or so years I have had to re-install the 7 OS on both the laptop and desktop. I got to the point that MS says my key is invalid.
    I call support and they tell me I can only upgrade from vista. I explain to them that this is a reinstall due to some hardware failure. They login into my machine then give me a 15 quartet key to enter. And alas all is well.

    My question is if I enter my original key (7 key) will I get the same problem. Being it is an upgrade to 10 will there be an issue activating ten? I hate to get to end of the install and find out I need to go back to square one or call support to correct the issue and explain all the ramifications.

    One thought is if I enter the original they may just say OK. But then I remember “nature sides with the hidden flaw”!

    Thanks for your suggestions.

    John
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  2. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       20 Jan 2016 #2

    quote :
    Over the course of the last 5 or so years I have had to re-install the 7 OS on both the laptop and desktop. I got to the point that MS says my key is invalid.
    I call support and they tell me I can only upgrade from vista. I explain to them that this is a reinstall due to some hardware failure. They login into my machine then give me a 15 quartet key to enter. And alas all is well.
    .................................................................................................... ...........................................................................
    In that case, you can do In-place Upgrade to Windows 10 and you do NOT need to enter the product key. Activation will be automatic.


    Use one of the 2 links below to download the iso file.............

    Media Creation Tool (MCT)
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

    Tech Bench
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/techbench

    Using MCT as example................
    Download the Tool and run it.
    Then select
    Create installation media for another PC
    That will begin downloading the ISO file to your computer.
    When download is completed, RIGHT click at the ISO > click Mount > click Setup.exe.
    That will begin installing Windows 10.
    You have the choice of keeping settings, files and apps, or keeping nothing.
    No product key is required.
    Activation will be automatic.
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  3. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 952
    Windows 8.1, 10
       20 Jan 2016 #3

    Does it have an activated copy of Windows 7 running at the moment? If so you should be able to upgrade it to Windows 10, and you shouldn't need to enter a Product Key.

    Have a look here
    Windows 10 - Upgrade Installation - Windows 10 Forums

    I would always take a full backup image (I use Macrium Reflect Free) before attempting an upgrade, to give me something to roll back to, and in your case it's particularly relevant as I suspect restoring a backup would activate more easily than trying to install Win7 again.

    Edit: Beaten to it!
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  4. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,871
    Windows 10 Pro
       20 Jan 2016 #4

    To be on the safe side you can save the genuineticket.xml file from your activated Windows 7 like this:
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums

    I know that method works because I have used it and my Windows 7 Product Key is also the family 3 pack upgrade and my product key is also blocked from online automatic activation.
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 19
    Win 10 and Win 7
       22 Jan 2016 #5

    I figured out the question I had asked below. It is amazing how much a little reading can do for the learning process

    I want to thank all for your help. I may start the upgrade this afternoon or tomorrow morning and I will log my results.
    One last question (you don't believe that) What is the difference between downloading the ISO file from the 2 links in DavidY's post and
    starting the upgrade from the windows update in the control panel? Just a curiosity!

    Thanks again John
    Last edited by JohnM72; 22 Jan 2016 at 12:41.
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  6. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       22 Jan 2016 #6

    JohnM72 said: View Post
    I want to thank all for your help. I may start the upgrade this afternoon or tomorrow morning and I will log my results.
    One last question (you don't believe that) What is the difference between downloading the ISO file from the 2 links in DavidY's post and
    starting the upgrade from the windows update in the control panel? Just a curiosity!

    Thanks again John
    You mean from Davidhk post.
    I was the one who posted 2 links for iso download.

    There is no difference between upgrading from the iso file and upgrading from Windows Update. You'll still get the same version and apps.

    A simplified answer will be :
    Some users want to upgrade by doing Clean Install, in which case, they will need the ISO file.
    Others do the upgrade install by Windows Update for ease and convenience.
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  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 19
    Win 10 and Win 7
       22 Jan 2016 #7

    davidhk said: View Post
    You mean from Davidhk post.


    There is no difference between upgrading from the iso file and upgrading from Windows Update. You'll still get the same version and apps.A
    I just figured that out. Just a little slow today! Sorry about the name error, my fingers are slower than my eyes!
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  8. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       22 Jan 2016 #8

    No problem.
    If you decide to install Win 10, please post back the result afterwards.
    Good luck.
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 19
    Win 10 and Win 7
       23 Jan 2016 #9

    davidhk said: View Post
    No problem.
    If you decide to install Win 10, please post back the result afterwards.
    Good luck.

    Well I installed Win 10 and it works, absolutely no thoughts of going back to 7
    . Now I must admit it took longer than I expected, about 2.5 hours. Remember it is a Dell 1535 dual processors 2.0 gig. The good part is that I caught up on some reading.
    The install did turn off Ad-Aware 11. Also, I managed to screw up Roxio and that was my fault. I think both of the issues are not a big deal.

    I think getting use to the new look and feel may take a little time but then again it is not a show stopper by any stretch of the imagination. MS Edge from what I have read is somewhat problematic, again no problem as I will continue to use Chrome and play with edge. The only thing I was not ready for was changing my login password but that is an easy fix.

    I will upgrade our Desktop after I finish our taxes, the warden would not be happy if I messed up her machine.

    An interesting note is that I was having one heck of a time with Outlook and the office 10 suite. It would take Outlook a minute and a half to come up and there were system waits that would go on for 15 to 30 seconds. My conclusion was that there must have been some modules in 7 that were somewhat corrupted. Because Outlook takes about 10+ seconds to come up now.
    Now it's time to play more.
    And again thanks for your help.


    John
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  10. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       23 Jan 2016 #10

    You are welcome.
    One thing I'd like you to do......................
    Please mark this thread as Solved.
    Thank you.
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