Windows 10 Pro, version 1511, 10586 update fails multiple times

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  1. Posts : 21
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    davidhk said:
    I have absolutely no experience in disk encryption.
    Does it take long to do that ?
    If not , why not decrypt and see if problem solved ?

    Win 10 is a new design. It might not behave the same way as Win 7 and Win 8.
    I don't want to do that because I need to decrypt 2 TB of data over the network to my home server. It takes ages, and the implication is that if Microsoft release the next update I have to decrypt all over again. It should just work and not expect the user to have to decrypt with each large update.
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    chewlip said:
    I don't want to do that because I need to decrypt 2 TB of data over the network to my home server. It takes ages, and the implication is that if Microsoft release the next update I have to decrypt all over again. It should just work and not expect the user to have to decrypt with each large update.
    I've added a call for extra help on your issue in the VIP sub-forum - let's see if another member with more specific experience can help you out...
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    chewlip said:
    I don't want to do that because I need to decrypt 2 TB of data over the network to my home server. It takes ages, and the implication is that if Microsoft release the next update I have to decrypt all over again. It should just work and not expect the user to have to decrypt with each large update.
    Wow. I guess decrypt is out of the question.
    Thank you for the info.
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    Word Man said:
    I've added a call for extra help on your issue in the VIP sub-forum - let's see if another member with more specific experience can help you out...
    Very kind, much appreciated.
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    chewlip said:
    Guys, really sorry about this but I really should have mentioned that I have veracrypt installed with the system drive encrypted and my D and E drives whole disk encrypted. I guess this changes things?! Sorry!
    Hi all,
    Not a big user of encryption, and never used VeraCrypt, but I did see that they have a new BETA version out, and one of the things listed is "Sign binaries using both SHA-1 and SHA-256 to follow new Microsoft recommendations."

    Also, just wondering, is it possible in this software to decrypt the OS volume only and not all the data volumes?
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  6. Posts : 8
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    [QUOTE=chewlip;528332]I downloaded the media creation tool from Windows 10 and get this:

    Just a suggestion see you are in the UK have you tried the UK site for the Media Creation Tool? [URL="https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10"]
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  7. Posts : 21
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    chewlip said:
    I downloaded the media creation tool from Windows 10 and get this:

    Just a suggestion see you are in the UK have you tried the UK site for the Media Creation Tool? [URL="https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10"]
    Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I also tried doing it with my account type changed from Standard to Administrator.

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       #28

    chewlip said:

    Thanks for the suggestion but no joy. I also tried doing it with my account type changed from Standard to Administrator.

    The update MUST be run in an administrator account.
    That error indicates a standard user account.

    Try this:
    Grab the ISO from TechBench
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/techbench
    uninstall your antivirus
    remove all external drives and USB devices, except monitor, mouse and keyboard
    if you've moved your Libraries, move them back
    uninstall any monitoring software (like Speccy)
    disconnect form the internet
    mount the ISO (right-click) and select the setup.exe file
    run the upgrade that way, selecting to keep all apps, files and settings.

    I just did this to a system yesterday that would not update, and it worked. The only thing I had to do afterwards was connect to the internet and run Windows Update, to get the sound CODEC reinstalled. However, this rig was not using encryption.


    Watch the video in this tutorial
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums

    starting from 3:25
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  9. Posts : 21
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    I tried to update using Windows Update with my account as Administrator and it failed again. I then downloaded the ISO and tried to update with that as Administrator and I get this:



    I feel a bit nervous that it's going to screw everything up...

    Worried about this specifically from VeraCrypt - Home

    Will I be able to mount my VeraCrypt partition/container after I reinstall or upgrade the operating system?Yes, VeraCrypt volumes are independent of the operating system. However, you need to make sure your operating system installer does not format the partition where your VeraCrypt volume resides.
    Last edited by chewlip; 13 Jan 2016 at 17:42.
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  10. Posts : 16,278
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       #30

    chewlip said:
    I tried to update using Windows Update with my account as Administrator and it failed again. I then downloaded the ISO and tried to update with that as Administrator and I get this:



    I feel a bit nervous that it's going to screw everything up...

    Worried about this specifically from VeraCrypt - Home

    Will I be able to mount my VeraCrypt partition/container after I reinstall or upgrade the operating system?Yes, VeraCrypt volumes are independent of the operating system. However, you need to make sure your operating system installer does not format the partition where your VeraCrypt volume resides.
    Is this a picture of the in-place upgrade procedure using the ISO from MSTechBench? It says "keep apps and files"; it does not say "formatting your partition". Formatting would show up as an option if you were installing from boot. But I don't see where it says "keep your settings", like it does in the video. Are you sure you downloaded the correct ISO?

    Did you remove your AV and disconnect everything else as I mentioned?

    If you are concerned, then I would first make an image of your entire C:\ drive using Macrium Reflect Free. That way, if something fails, you can always just put it back to the way it was using the snapshot image.

    Or, ask in the Veracrypt forum and see what they say about it.

    EDIT: What are the possibilities of just decrypting the C:\ drive before doing the upgrade, since everything else will be disconnected? I don't know the ramifications of this, since I don't use this software. Perhaps that might break some link between the C:\ drive and the other ones?
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