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  1.    22 Nov 2015 #1
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    KB3073930 will not hide Nvidia driver update


    I pride myself in researching and figure things out but just can't get this one.
    I know I have the most recent NVidia driver from their website. My video is gone.
    I also know all about the show/hide "troubleshooter" (should be called fix a bad MS decision shooter)...anyway, it works fine with several items. However the Nvidia driver update does not show on the list of items in the troubleshooter it can hide!
    So, it keeps showing up with the updates that I DO WANT to download.

    Even stranger, some updates showed in the troubleshooter that were not showing in my windows update dialog.

    But anyway, the real issue is that I need to hide that Nvidia driver. Any suggestions?

    This is a little crazy. I might be okay with OS updates being pushed more but NOT drivers.

    Thanks,
    BJB
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  2.    22 Nov 2015 #2
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    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    @BJB

    What is your update scheme, did you turn off Auto Update? See my settings below:

    Windows Update settings

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    When Windows Update alerts me that there are updates avaliable, I select carefully what updates to install. When a MicroSoft WDDM NVIDIA driver is presented, I hide it.

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    Cheers
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  3.    22 Nov 2015 #3
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    If you have already download the latest official driver from nVidia, there is nothing newer in Windows Update, and this explains why you cannot see the driver update. The show/hide tool shows only available updates. The available nVidia driver is probably older than the one you have currently installed, so it will not normally install, and hence it will not shown in the list to hide it.
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  4.    22 Nov 2015 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4v3r1ck View Post
    @BJB

    What is your update scheme, did you turn off Auto Update? See my settings below:

    Windows Update settings

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Windows Update settings.JPG 
Views:	13 
Size:	66.1 KB 
ID:	49929

    When Windows Update alerts me that there are updates avaliable, I select carefully what updates to install. When a MicroSoft WDDM NVIDIA driver is presented, I hide it.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hide MicroSoft NVIDIA WDDM updates.JPG 
Views:	16 
Size:	60.1 KB 
ID:	49928

    Cheers
    Are you running Windows 10?
    Those Windows Update settings (being able to choose "let me choose to download and install them") are not available in Windows 10 - a very common complaint/annoyance.

    If you are running 10 and can choose those settings, PLEASE let me know how you accomplished that.
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  5.    22 Nov 2015 #5
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    Thanks for all the help group. Yes I am on windows 10, that is the issue. Been working on setting up a newly built PC on W10 all day.
    That hide tool does not work for drivers, at least not my Nvidia ones. The solution is you go to devices and printers and turn off the ability to "download drivers and realistic icons". It then disappeared from the updates list. That was the issue....in windows 10 you can't hide. Then the hide troubleshooter would not hide the NVidia driver. What a pain... Hope this helps someone.

    And kind of spooky...I guess before I did that, it sniffed the network connection and at sometime downloaded some nonsense devices/drivers for my printers in the house that are wireless. Did not even ask. When I downloaded the right drivers, I had to delete that before they worked. And one printer still has issues....
    BJB
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  6.    23 Nov 2015 #6
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 1706 (CU build 15063.674)

    As said before, if you already have latest drivers, there is nothing newer in Windows Update to download. The show/hide tool lists the NEW available updates. If the nVidia driver on Microsoft server is OLDER than the driver currently installed, then obviously it is not available as an update because it is older, so you should not see it in the list to hide it. If after some days a new driver is released, then it will be available in the list, unless you install the same version of something even newer directly from nVidia.

    In other words, if you keep your nVidia drivers updated, you don't have to worry about them being replaced by Windows Update. The show/hide tool is useful for older nVidia cards that do not have any newer official driver, so we use it to hide any non-working "newer" Microsoft driver.
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  7.    23 Nov 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by spapakons View Post
    If you have already download the latest official driver from nVidia, there is nothing newer in Windows Update, and this explains why you cannot see the driver update. The show/hide tool shows only available updates. The available nVidia driver is probably older than the one you have currently installed, so it will not normally install, and hence it will not shown in the list to hide it.
    [Off-topic perhaps] The FIRST thing I do after installing - in my case still Win 8.1 (sorry for not mentioning that in my post) - is to shut down the auto-update feature. Unfortunately Windows 8.1 does not check for the newest NVidia 'WebDrivers" and if auto update in enabled, it will FORCE update it's own "ancient" WDDM drivers, leaving your graphics system in a terrible state. [/Off-topic]

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  8.    23 Nov 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by TV2 View Post
    Are you running Windows 10?
    Those Windows Update settings (being able to choose "let me choose to download and install them") are not available in Windows 10 - a very common complaint/annoyance.

    If you are running 10 and can choose those settings, PLEASE let me know how you accomplished that.
    Tonight I will install Windows_10_nl-NL_1151_10586 (language ENG, US keyboard) in a Virtual Machine to check the state of this build and version. @TV2 I'll check the settings for auto-update for video drivers and will report back here.

    Cheers
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  9.    23 Nov 2015 #9
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    Trust me - I have tried everything to try and get that basic functionality (let me choose) from Windows 10. There is no way that I know of to do it (and I am not a newb). The only choice available is to choose when to restart the computer to finish installing the updates.

    What I have to do is go into Services and disable Windows Update. Then when I choose to update Windows I go back in and re-enable it.

    And even though I have the option checked to not download drivers from Windows Update, I still got a Touchpad driver downloaded and installed Sunday night. No way to opt out of that driver without stopping all updates.
    You have to let it install and then go in and manually uninstall it, then roll back the driver.

    This is areal step back for MS. They are treating all users like children.
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  10.    23 Nov 2015 #10
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    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)

    Thanks for your response @TV2.

    Sounds - by your chosen words - like this may be the 'System Integrity Protection' -adventure Apple stepped into with OS X El 'messy' Capitan, they are both driving us into the wrong direction of an one way driveway. Collisions are up ahead for sure.

    I just got my Windows_10_nl-NL_1151_10586 (language ENG, US keyboard) installed in a VM. Installed my ESET Smart Security immediately after finishing installing Win10 for reviewing the generated network traffic. Tomorrow I'll be tweaking some more.

    Cheers


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