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  1.    17 Sep 2015 #21
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    I'm in the ghetto
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I wish there was a way to create favorites on this forum - your method would definitely be at the top of favorites!
    You can create a favorites folder in your subscriptions and then move whatever thread into it.
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  2.    17 Sep 2015 #22
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyMe View Post
    You can create a favorites folder in your subscriptions and then move whatever thread into it.
    Well, how 'bout that! Didn't know that :-). I think I'm just going to start putting my favorite posts in my browser favorites. I've never used browser favorites before, so a good excuse to start!
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  3.    17 Sep 2015 #23
    Join Date : Apr 2014
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    I wish there was a way to create favorites on this forum - your method would definitely be at the top of favorites!
    On the Seven Forums at one time there had been a guide for extending the trial period for 7 upto 120 days legally which was removed to avoid any type of problem with MS! You won't be seeing any like there for 10. During the first week after the wait to get 10 on finally resulted in tending to another upgrade to repair the first type of install the activation servers were bogged down literally and the repair wouldn't activate. So I gave the rearm code used previously for the 7 RC builds and it took!

    When later seeing a clean install of 10 go along side 7 Pro on the second desktop before upgrading over 7 there it wouldn't work! The MS servers had no record of 10 being on that machine until it saw the upgrade take place and then activated the clean install within a few system restarts. By then after that first week the servers were no longer tied up and each install since has been found activated when first arriving at the desktop. When later swapping the 4gb of Mushkin Enhanced memory out as I may have mentioned earlier for 8gb of Kingston Hyper X Fury the activation was temporarily lost but came back in a couple of days on it's own without the need for any tricks. That was a minor hardware change while a major one is expected to see a clean install follow another upgrade over the previous which then needs a clean install of that.

    "Got ya runnin' in them der circles do we?!" which breaks down to simply do it and get it done with! When I wasn't able to resize an OEM primary on the laptop that was upgraded the simple solution was to "NUKE THE DRIVE"! That was after the initial upgrade and two clean installs were all found activated but still couldn't shrink the primary down just a bit about 80gb to allow for a second backup part on the single drive model. Still went from the 32bit 7 Home Premium to 64bit 10 Home!
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  4.    18 Sep 2015 #24
    Join Date : Sep 2015
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    Win 10, Linux

    Is switching from a hard drive to an SSD a major change?

    I talked to Microsoft tech support on the phone today and they told me the only way to clean install and activate W10 on an new hard drive without a product key would be to buy a key for $100. What happens is I bought my laptop with 8.1 and then upgraded to 10. Now I want to switch to W10 and I don't know what to do. I hear some people say it will automatically activate but not according to the guy I talked to at MS. (I found my W10 key with Magic JellyBean but I'm not sure if that would accepted either on clean install)
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  5.    19 Sep 2015 #25
    Join Date : Mar 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro (x64)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cityscape View Post
    Is switching from a hard drive to an SSD a major change?
    No that is not a major change. Install Windows 10 as you normally would. Skip all prompts that asks for a key. The key you got from "Magic JellyBean" is a generic useless key. When installed as along as the motherboard is the same it will activate on its own. This is assuming you have gone though and previously done the Windows upgrade before swapping drives.
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  6.    19 Sep 2015 #26
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    +1 for logicearth, That is correct.
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  7.    19 Sep 2015 #27
    Join Date : Apr 2014
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Quote Originally Posted by Cityscape View Post
    Is switching from a hard drive to an SSD a major change?

    I talked to Microsoft tech support on the phone today and they told me the only way to clean install and activate W10 on an new hard drive without a product key would be to buy a key for $100. What happens is I bought my laptop with 8.1 and then upgraded to 10. Now I want to switch to W10 and I don't know what to do. I hear some people say it will automatically activate but not according to the guy I talked to at MS. (I found my W10 key with Magic JellyBean but I'm not sure if that would accepted either on clean install)
    10 is being offered as a "Free Upgrade Over" the previous version that once activated automatically to the system you have there can be installed fresh without worry and without any key period. The person you spoke with was apparently trying to get you to pay outright for a purchase of 10 rather then explaining how to go about upgrading first and once activated seeing the clean install take place.

    Anyone in support is there to get you to buy not explain shortcuts to an end. And it doesn't matter that it was MS or some other software company since the goal is to market the product. In fact when using the same key the ShowKey tool displayed on the second desktop here putting clean install onto a new second primary before upgrading the 7 Pro there the activation server simply blocked it as expected! That was derived from the hardware profile ID seen with the first desktop. A new key was generated with the upgrade afterwards but still can't be entered on the next clean install. The "skip" button is used on the enter product key now screen!
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  8.    19 Sep 2015 #28

    I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I'll relay my recent experience.
    Yesterday my sister dropped off her Win7 notebook which wouldn't boot (/BCD error).

    Tried Linux Live USB for diagnostic, even that errored-out (which was a first for me) - eventually removed the offensive HDD and hooked it up in my ultrabay - turned out the system reserved partition became RAW...

    Backed up the remaining partiions ( took an age - which should have alerted me to the quality of the HDD) - anyways deleted all partitions and put it back it into her notebook.

    Installed Win7 and activated, but as with the backup it slowed to a snail's pace. Decided then to grab the Genuine ticket and turf that HDD and replace it with an old one I had.

    Installed Win10 clean on that, added the genuine ticket - went online - got the key blocked error - ignored it and proceeded with the apps installations - once that was completed and rebooted - Win 10 was activated.

    Unfortunately checking that HDD also showed some bad clusters, so purchased a new SSD and installed Win 10 - it activated immediately online.
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  9.    19 Sep 2015 #29
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    The fact that you went ahead and entered any key brought the activation to a halt until seeing the restart where the activation process was automatically tended to. When using the key the ShowKeyPlus pointed out on the main build's 10 host install I am in at the moment and tried to use that on the second case I knew that would be an automatic fail as far as activating the initial clean install first only to show all that you can't simply activated one machine and take 10 along with you and not see an upgrade on each new machine. It doesn't work that way.

    The way 10 is activating however at least for the moment is allowing for some hardware changes that would have otherwise seen the need to call into MS! The first memory installed on the main build here saw that memory replaced when the dimms simply sat too high and bumped up against a large hsf. 7 had just recently gone on the then new build and immediately saw the "This may be a countfeit copy of Windows" watermark appear. One fast to MS to see that taken care of!

    With 10 however having installed two of the first memory's four 2gb dimms tossed into the second mini tower I use for test purposes I put together at first from some then unused drives and a few budget priced parts as well as having upgraded the cpu already on the main build. When swapping that pair out for the newer Kingston Hyper X "Fury" memory 10 went deactivated for about a day or so no longer. That was a switch!

    With previous versions MS allowed for some degree of minor hardware changes to allow for someone sticking in a better video or sound card as well as adding more memory in but not swapping brands for anything installed on the board like the memory. That was still a major change for 7 but not presently seen with 10.

    Now once activated the first time you will automatically find 10 activated for each new clean install that takes place. With the 7 Home Premium 32bit laptop I saw upgrade to 10 the upgrade came out buggy! missing the Start button, a blank screen in Start<Settings, and absolutely could not open up the AllApps if the world was coming to an end! The buggy expected to be buggy upgrade was immediately replaced by the 32bit Home clean install and then onto the 64bit for the second clean install. Then the OEM primary was found not able to be shrunk any to allow for a second backup partition since hardly anything will even be going onto it to start with.

    Drive nuked cleaned to start all over fresh having already removed the 300mb 3rd party and 400mb HP partition and then see the OEM System Reserved at the front of the drive become history as the new primary and backup partitions were put on! 10 activated instantly as expected.
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  10.    03 Oct 2015 #30
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Indianapolis
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    Win 10 Pro 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by xer21 View Post

    [My Solution- Does not involve reinstalling your primary system]
    1. Disconnect all your hard drives
    2. Connect an old hard drive you no longer need the data on
    3. Install previous version of windows (in my case it was Win7 Ultimate x64 Upgrade)
    MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS USING YOUR NEW HARDWARE!

    • Because I had the upgrade media, during the installation I unchecked the "activate when online" checkbox (whatever it was called) and did NOT enter a product key, because the upgrade key wouldn't work anyway
    • Then after installation completed....
      • I opened up "regedit.exe" navigated to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/CurrentVersion/Setup/OOBE/
      • Changed the MediaBootInstall value from 1 to 0
      • Opened a command prompt (cmd.exe) with "Run as administrator"
      • Ran the command "slmgr /rearm"
      • Reboot!
      • After reboot I had to install my network drivers so I could activate windows...


    4. Activate previous version of windows

    • I went into the Windows activation program (WinKey, typed activation) entered my product key and then online activation worked fine. If it doesn't call them etc get it activated!

    5. Now that the previous windows version was activated I needed to generate the GenuineTicket.xml that Windows 10 uses to accept the previous windows Upgrade. Here are the steps...

    • Insert your Windows 10 Installation media (Mine was Win10Pro 64bit on a USB drive)
    • I navigated to :\sources\ (you may need to navigate to :\sources\64 or 32 depending on your installation media)
    • I copied :\sources"gatherosstate.exe" to my desktop, and ran it with "Run as administrator" I don't think you need to as admin but I did it anyway.
    • "gatherosstate.exe" generates a file in the same directory (desktop) called GenuineTicket.xml automatically. If this file does not appear almost instantly your windows version may not be activated still or reboot or Sorry I dunno.
    • Copy the GenuineTicket.xml to a usb drive (I just made a folder on my win 10 install media and saved it there)

    6. Shut down your computer, disconnect your temporary hard drive, reconnect your primary hard drives
    7. Start up windows 10 (not install media just what you've been using since activation failed)
    8. Copy your GenuineTicket.xml to this existing folder C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket
    9. Reboot!
    10. Muhahahahaha hah haha ah ahah ah ahah ha a Windows 10 Pro says its activated. I did not have to reinstall my primary system or apps etc
    Hope this works for anyone else viewing this!

    So, if I understand this correctly before I purchase my new system, I can take the backup image of my "old" Win7 system prior to the Win10 upgrade and put it on a spare hard drive on my new system. Fire it up with my old Win7 and use the gatherosstate.exe to extract this GenuineTicket file. Save this file to a flash drive. Shut down, and swap hard drives so that my Win10 (upgraded from Win7) is on my new system. Fire it up again and now take the Genuine Ticket file from the flash drive and stick it in C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\ClipSVC\GenuineTicket, reboot and everything should be activated with the new system hardware?
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