After 3 months since KB5034441 was released, it still won't install

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  1. Posts : 3
    windows 10
       #21

    No I do not and that was rude! I just did not want to redo all the partitions on 4 machines.
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  2. Posts : 107
    windows10/22h2
       #22

    I'm with Ben. It's not only embarrassing to the users but MS is taking a real hit on the internet about this, altho I am sure they see it as 'a fix', pat self on back.
    The reality is that it's a fix only for those users of Bitlocker, whereby apparently a hack exists using the windows recovery partition to bypass security from that app. If you don't have a windows recovery partition, or don't use bitlocker - that majority of users ignored - install error as reported many times.

    The fixes I have seen on the net all use complicated command level execution strings to allegedly fix this, sequences that a guru would hesitate to use, let alone an average or even reasonably knowlegeable user. Nevertheless, if MS thinks those work, why hasn't a fix or updated KB been released?

    Meanwhile, out on the net, MS reputation getting trashed on 2 counts - 1, for letting such an abomination out in the first place, and 2 for not fixing it once the complaints flooded in. The group manager's annual bonus should be canned for this.

    Reduced to the basics, if you don't have a windows recovery partition - something created by manufacturer's when first installing windows in a factory - a condition that exists for every re-built system (the PC service shops just don't do this), see screenshot of my PC attached, it still fails. MS in their app note on this KB says that users who don't have such a partition don't need to install - see screenshot attached - but their software still tries and fails anyway.

    Both of these pics and the sentiments behind them expressed here have been reported using the win10 MS feedback links over the last several months. Nothing changed.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails After 3 months  since KB5034441 was released, it still won't install-kb5034441-update-issue-1.jpg   After 3 months  since KB5034441 was released, it still won't install-kb5034441-update-issue-2.jpg  
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  3. Posts : 49
    Windows 10 - 64 Bit
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Bingo - thank you for this. I thought I was alone on this matter.
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  4. Posts : 107
    windows10/22h2
       #24

    Ben,
    You are assuredly not alone. Google search using kb5034441 and read the firing squad comments levelled at MS from the first day this abomination was released.
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  5. Posts : 434
    10
       #25

    Does MS even test thier software anymore?
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  6. Posts : 6,855
    22H2 64 Bit Pro
       #26

    Redbatman said:
    Does MS even test thier software anymore?
    Yes on users. They're the guinea pigs.

    Windows Update shenanigans, 2024 version

    It's best to wait until a few days after an update is released before installing it after confriming that widespred poroblems have not been reported.

    Microsoft Admits Normal Windows 10 Users Are 'Testing' Unstable Updates
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  7. Posts : 1
    MS Win 7, MS Win 10
       #27

    Since is more and more obvious that for some Microsoft Windows 10 editions (and especially for LTSC/IoT LTSC versions), the Microsoft Corp. will probably never fix this serious install KB5034441 update bug just from within the simple and straightforward Windows Update service, my humble opinion and request here on this great Forum is a creation of Step by step Tutorial on How to create a Custom Windows 10 ISO with the Custom Recovery partition size set on 1000MB.

    On this way, we will not need anymore to make manually adjustments of the MS Win 10 Recovery partition just after every single time we already install the MS Win 10 OS, but have this already fixed right from the moment when MS Win 10 OS is installed in the first place. :)

    Thank you in advance for the help and the possible Tutorial and best regards!
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  8. Posts : 1,223
    Windows 10
       #28

    Redbatman said:
    Does MS even test thier software anymore?
    Actually, all the problems were caused by Microsoft doing the cautious thing.

    Microsoft switched this WinRE updating back in June 2023 --- for Windows 11 22H2. It was a phased launch, eventually moving to Windows 10 in January 2024.

    After 3 months  since KB5034441 was released, it still won't install-s2.png

    All those Windows 11 computers never ran out of WinRE partition space (and thus never had to do a manual partition expansion) because they were adding smaller changes to the WinRE partition every single month since June 2023.

    Windows 10 computers ran out of WinRE partition space because of the cautious phased launch. We had accumulated 6 months worth of smaller WinRE changes into a giant single patch and thus running out of partition space.

    Then the whole thing got blown up because the senior engineers have extended Christmas holidays and weren't around making sure that this patch would work in the beginning of January.
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  9. Posts : 1
    Win10
       #29

    Thanks DavidK, for that info that the update is not necessary if you don't have a Recovery Partition. I don't, so I used MS's wushowhide tool to hide that update.

    Sadly, the wushowhide tool is VERY hard to find now. Links to a page where MS offered it as a download now take you to a useless page with no option to download it. Fortunately I have a copy from January and that worked fine.

    Not sure if it's okay to post links here, but if you do a search for "download wushhide tool", you'll find a Microsoft Community page where someone posted a link to the file itself on Microsoft's servers.
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  10. Posts : 43,010
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #30

    You can use WUmgr (free) very easily to hide updates.

    Sadly, the wushowhide is VERY hard to find now.
    ?

    The link in the tutorial works:
    Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
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