Unexpected "Update" to Windows 11

Hi,

My wife's laptop suddenly announced that it was downloading and installing Windows 11.

We haven't given permission for this, nor have we been given the option of installing (or not). Thishas happened in a few instances to other Windows 10 users as far as I know.

I find it strange that Microsoft has this belief that it can do what it likes with your computer - regardless of your likes or wishes.

Am I correct in thinking that after the laptop has taken the best part of an hour and a half/two hours to "update to W11", we have a short time period to roll back to Win 10?

Am I also correct in thinking that whether we want it or not, Windows 11 will ultimately be forced on us "for our own good"?

Final question. Is there a tutorial (or similar) in how to tweak Windows 11 to be as Windows 10 like as possible (I have a feeling that my wife will find the step change too much)

Thanks,

Art

Can't post system specs of the laptop at the moment as it is installing 11 (and has taken 30 mins to go from 10% to 22%). Good job I've just started watching a movie!

UPDATE: After over an hour and 70% of the way through, the update encountered "an unexpected error" and rolled back the update to Windows 10 (oh joy of joys!). Error code: 0xc1900101-4000d

Soooo.... system info

Windows 10 Home / Ver 22H2 / Build 19045.3803 on Lenovo IdeaPad S540 with Intel Core i5 8265 CPU 1.6GHz / 8GB RAM

UPDATE2: I've disabled Automatic Updates in gpedit.msc. This gives me the choice to download and to separately install any updates - yes? Option 2 in the Group Policy Editor > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Configure Automatic Updates only seems to offer the choice of notifying and auto-installing updates, so disabling Automatic Updates seems to be the way to go.

@ArthurDent


You have ten days to roll back.
If you have a Win 10 backup... then you can roll back... whenever.

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Ghot said:

@ArthurDent


You have ten days to roll back.
If you have a Win 10 backup... then you can roll back... whenever.

Quickie Eleven Forum Setup Guide for new Members | Windows 11 Forum

Windows 11 Tweaks - Leader Board. | Windows 11 Forum

Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES | Windows 11 Forum

Many thanks

Art

Art,

And when you've either
- rolled back to Windows 10 within 10 days,

Roll Back to Previous Version of Windows - ElevenForumTutorials
{or extended the time using See and Set Number of Days can Go Back to Previous Version of Windows - ElevenForumTutorials}

or
- restored your last Windows 10 system image whenever you feel like it,
then
- use this procedure to avoid a repetition.

Specify Target Feature Update Version - TenForumsTutorials
I have all mine set to Version 22H2 and not even my fully-compatible desktop has tried to downgrade to Windows 11.

I have not seen anybody report that they have used this procedure yet still been forced into Windows 11.

Happy New Year,
Denis

ArthurDent said:

Many thanks

Art

Generally, when ever I install ANY version of Windows... I disconnect all the storage drives, and disconnect the internet completely.

Completely disconnecting the wired and wireless internet, makes for a much smoother install.



Get this "portable" app and run it on your wife's laptop...
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin...hyNotWin11.exe


If you get all GREEN boxes, like the pic, you're good to go...






If there are any RED boxes, post a screen shot, and we can help any of those.

Try3 said:

Art,

And when you've either
- rolled back to Windows 10 within 10 days,

Roll Back to Previous Version of Windows - ElevenForumTutorials
{or extended the time using See and Set Number of Days can Go Back to Previous Version of Windows - ElevenForumTutorials}

or
- restored your last Windows 10 system image whenever you feel like it,
then
- use this procedure to avoid a repetition.

Specify Target Feature Update Version - TenForumsTutorials
I have all mine set to Version 22H2 and not even my fully-compatible desktop has tried to downgrade to Windows 11.

I have not seen anybody report that they have used this procedure yet still been forced into Windows 11.

Happy New Year,
Denis

Thaks Denis, will do.

Happy New Year to you too!

I will send you a PM about an issue I am having(I hope you don't mind).

Kind regards and all the best for '24!

Art

Ghot said:

Generally, when ever I install ANY version of Windows... I disconnect all the storage drives, and disconnect the internet completely.

Completely disconnecting the wired and wireless internet, makes for a much smoother install.

Get this "portable" app and run it on your wife's laptop...
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin...hyNotWin11.exe

If you get all GREEN boxes, like the pic, you're good to go...



If there are any RED boxes, post a screen shot, and we can help any of those.

Will do Ghot and many thanks.

Art

BTW - Happy New Year too!

Hi Ghot,

Results from my wife's pc ...



Everything looks hunky-dory here!

Art

ArthurDent said:

Hi Ghot,

Results from my wife's pc ...

Everything looks hunky-dory here!

Art

If your wife's laptop ism running well, you may want to do an In-Place Upgrade from Win 10 to Win 11.
That's what I did on my computer.

Ofc, you'll need to use the Windows 11 ISO...
Repair Install Windows 11 with an In-place Upgrade Tutorial | Windows 11 Forum

Here is the short version of the In-place upgrade tutorial...

DISABLE non-Microsoft:
a) antivirus software
b) firewall software
c) drive encryption software


Make a full OS backup with a program like Macrium Reflect or AOMEI Backupper Standard
Making a backup is optional, but always a smart move.
Macrium Reflect
AOMEI Backupper Standard (free)


Get the Windows 11 ISO (Option #2), and save it to your desktop...


Right click the ISO image and choose: MOUNT
Open File Explorer and you will see a new drive letter. It will "look" like a DVD optical drive.
Double click the new drive letter to open it.
Find setup.exe and double click it to start the in-place upgrade.

Choose the Keep personal files and apps option.

After it's all done... to UNmount the ISO image, right click the new drive letter and choose: EJECT.

The ONLY thing you will lose is some of your personalizations.
Your drivers, programs and data will be intact.




The advantage of using the ISO of Windows 11, is that you won't need the internet where one tiny hiccough can mess up the upgrade/install.

If you decide to do a clan install, here is the tutorial for that as well...
Clean Install Windows 11 Tutorial | Windows 11 Forum

This is of course assuming she wants Windows 11!

Given that she's not geeky and is used to how 10 looks and feels, I'm not sure an update to 11 is a good idea!

Isn't terribly good at reading messages that appear on screen either - but that's a horse of a different colour! The other day she was typing an email and a message kept popping up that she kept dismissing. Turns out Gmail was telling her she wasn't connected to the internet (hence anything she typed wouldn't have even been saved as a draft)!

Personally, I'd be just as happy if she stayed on 10 - at least I know how that works for the most part.

I'll put 11 on a test machine and figure out what tweaks to do to get it looking and feeling like 10 before I update her machine. Having said that, hers is the only pc we have that has the requisite TPM module and thus any other machines will have to be "upgraded" to Windows 11 by using hacks and work-arounds.

Art

@ArthurDent


23H2 is the latest feature upgrade for Windows 11... so I just had to comment...


I bought this old comp, for my internet romps
The wifey, she wanted one too
I got them to run, for our digital fun
With that ol' 23 - H2

Gimme that good old 23 - H2
Them that refuse it are few
I'll not yell and stomp if you fill up my comp
With that ol' 23 - H2


Our comps are fast, and we need them to last
I'm hoping, for one year or two
I grease up their parts, each day fore we start
With that ol' 23 - H2

Gimme that good old 23 - H2
Them that refuse it are few
I'll not yell and stomp if you fill up my comp
With that ol' 23 - H2





To the tune of...