Reactivating Windows after cloning


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    Reactivating Windows after cloning


    I have been playing around with different storage devices for my OS drive. The last time I did it windows was not activated so i just went back to my other drive.

    I want to clone and try another drive but am worried about reactivating Windows if i like that drive.

    The thing is I would like to avoid getting a microsoft account and linking it. Is this possible ?

    Should I just plan on calling MSFT
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    SierraPorter said:
    II want to clone and try another drive but am worried about reactivating Windows if i like that drive.
    When Windows 10 has been activated on a PC it gets a digital license that's stored on Microsoft's activation servers.. This license is linked to the hardware ID of the PC, meaning you can clean install the same edition of Windows 10 (Home or Pro) without providing a key if asked and it will activate from the digital license as soon as it can contact the activation servers.

    The drive plays no part in the hardware ID, so changing yours was not the reason activation was lost. It could have been that you had made other hardware changes, or maybe it could not connect to the activation servers. Putting a clone of 10 Pro in a PC that has a digital license for Home could have been another reason. It certainly wasn't down to changing the drive.

    The Windows 10 Digital License is based on HWID 3. As long as the Windows edition, motherboard and CPU remain the same, once the computer has been activated, all future clean installs on that computer also will activate automatically. Note that all HWIDs exclude storage media entirely. Thus, on a PC with Windows 10 activated, you can replace its storage (HDD / SSD) devices with one or more new ones and clean install Windows 10 on a new disk. Even so, the PC will activate automatically based on that machine’s existing digital license.
    Windows 10 Digital License explained – Win10.Guru
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    Bree said:
    The drive plays no part in the hardware ID, so changing yours was not the reason activation was lost. It could have been that you had made other hardware changes, or maybe it could not connect to the activation servers. Putting a clone of 10 Pro in a PC that has a digital license for Home could have been another reason. It certainly wasn't down to changing the drive.
    Thanks
    Ok, I will just see what happens.

    edit....
    Maybe it was that I added a "Manufacturer" and "Model" name to this pc recently since it had none, since i built it. Wonder if I should remove that first or if it is baked in now ?
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    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    SierraPorter said:
    Maybe it was that I added a "Manufacturer" and "Model" name to this pc recently since it had none, since i built it. Wonder if I should remove that first or if it is baked in now ?
    No, that shouldn't have made any difference.
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    Bree said:
    No, that shouldn't have made any difference.
    Reactivating Windows after cloning-screenshot_1.png
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    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    The 'manufacturer' being used in the hardware ID should be the one embedded in the bios firmware. Where exactly did you change yours?

    Ten Forums member @Kari was the author of the article I linked to earlier and may be able to shed some light on this.
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    Bree said:
    The 'manufacturer' being used in the hardware ID should be the one embedded in the bios firmware. Where exactly did you change yours?.
    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OEMInformation

    I id modify my motherboard bios but did not change any info like that. just added NVMe support
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  8. Posts : 31,673
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    SierraPorter said:
    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OEMInformation
    That key is just used to display OEM details in Setting > System > About and doesn't play any part in the hardware ID. If did then there would have been a lot of complaints from those who followed this tutorial

    Customize OEM Support Information in Windows 10

    I did modify my motherboard bios but did not change any info like that. just added NVMe support
    That is a little more likely to be a reason, but not very likely. Bios updates generally don't cause activation issues and what yuo did sounds like little more than a bios update.


    On possibility comes to mind. Did you activate the Windows that you cloned with a retail key? Did you install the cloned drive in a different PC?

    If so then on checking for activation Windows may have found you appeared to be trying to use the same key on more than one PC. If you change the installed key to the appropriate generic key for your Windows edition (Home or Pro) then it should activate from the digital license whatever machine you put the drive in, as long as that machine's own hardware ID has a digital license for that edition.

    Windows 10 Pro: VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T
    Windows 10 Home: YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7
    Generic Product Keys to Install Windows 10 Editions
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    Bree said:
    On possibility comes to mind. Did you activate the Windows that you cloned with a retail key? Did you install the cloned drive in a different PC?
    No,, I built a windows 7 Pro machine then recently upgraded to windows 10 pro. And i have been messing around with it trying to put off a new build.

    The NVMe mod kinda worked. it was buggy. Last night I tried a new cloned NVMe drive and somehow messed up my original drive.

    I ended up doing a clean install. I really needed it and glad i finally did it (reluctantly). Amazing how much stuff collected over the years. My restart times are faster than ever.

    I have not seen anything about reactivating (yet) I suppose Windows recognizes my machine ?


    thanks for the replies
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