Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?

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  1. Posts : 27
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    Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?


    Several years ago when I was on Win7, I turned my back for a few mins and my desktop started updating itself to Win10. I managed to stop it in time, and a knowledgeable friend got me to install a program to stop it happening again. Think it was called Stop 10, or something like that.

    Is there a chance that 10 (I have Home version) will automatically start updating to 11? If yes, are there any settings I can change to stop this or maybe install a program like Stop 10?

    I would rather update things when I'm ready and I'm happy to stay with 10 for as long as it's supported by Windows. Thanks for any help and advice.
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Hi, from the huge Tutorial section - which I'd encourage you to browse and search- this may help:

    How to Specify Target Feature Update Version in Windows 10
    A new TargetReleaseVersion policy available in Windows 10 version 1803 and higher allows you to specify which feature update version of Windows 10 you would like your computer to move to and/or stay on until the version reaches end of service or you reconfigure this policy.

    If you don't update this policy before the device reaches end of service, the device will automatically be updated once it is 60 days past end of service for its version.

    If you specify a TargetReleaseVersion the same as the current version, Windows 10 will stay on this version until it reaches end of service.

    If you specify a TargetReleaseVersion higher than the current version, Windows 10 will directly update only to the specified version even if a higher version is available.
    Of course you can disable Windows Update and take manual control of it (two tutorials cover that) by the means in those - or other means. Pro users have more control.

    This article indicates that roll-out for Win 10 users may not start until 2022:
    Microsoft will not offer free 'Windows 11' upgrades at launch
    This release date for Windows 11 is for new machines, with the update for existing Windows 10 users coming at the beginning of 2022. This should mean that any bugs and problems will be (mostly) sorted by the time you can upgrade. If you can upgrade, assuming you have a TPM 2.0 compatible machine.
    Your Acer Aspire Desktop/M3910 seems to be from around 2011. If so, it's not compatible with Win 11's stated hardware requirements anyway, so should not be offered it.

    This article explains further:
    How to block the Windows 11 update from being installed on your PC
    Microsoft already made it clear that the Windows 11 update won’t be forced upon Windows 10 users at launch. If you want to upgrade, you will have to do so manually by heading to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update. Simply avoid that menu once Windows 11 launches and you should not have to worry about the update trying to install itself any time soon.
    I.e. don't manually check for updates (which some seem to do habitually).
    Last edited by dalchina; 3 Weeks Ago at 07:32.
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  3. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts by the end of 2022 saying, "I turned my computer on this morning and it is on Windows 11! Please help me! Why, oh why, did Microsoft force Windows 11 onto my computer when I didn't want it! ". And there will be much wringing of hands and shedding of tears.
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  4. Paul Black's Avatar
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    NavyLCDR said:
    I'm sure there will be hundreds of posts by the end of 2022 saying, "I turned my computer on this morning and it is on Windows 11! Please help me! Why, oh why, did Microsoft force Windows 11 onto my computer when I didn't want it! ". And there will be much wringing of hands and shedding of tears.
    How TRUE that will be.
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
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    Only hundreds?

    If it's true that manually checking for updates (seeking) => Win 11 being downloaded... (but only on supported systems of course!) then yes, there'll be weeping and much gnashing of teeth..

    Reminds me of a monologue..
    'Til the Barons in rage started gnashing their teeth,
    And them with no teeth gnashed their gums.
    http://monologues.co.uk/Magna-Charter.htm
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  6. cereberus's Avatar
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    If you are on an Insider Version, even RP ring you will get upgraded (assuming PC quailfies unless you turn of TPM?) but have 10 days to roll back. I am not sure what happens when you roll back i.e. will wou still be on Insider version?

    On my bios, I found out too late you cannot turn of fTPM without turning off secure boot at same time. I may be in a no win situation i.e. only way to stay on W10 is to turn off secure boot which I prefer not to do!

    Only alternative may be to clean install W10 from scratch of rollback does not work.

    Even taking a Reflect image will not help.

    I am going to see if I can force update to 21H2 and then I should hopefully be able to leave RP Ring. However as laptop is W11 capable, I suspect I will get nagged incessantly to upgrade.

    There is no doubt some people will get upgraded even though they did not wish to.
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  7. Bree's Avatar
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    woodbine said:
    ...Is there a chance that 10 (I have Home version) will automatically start updating to 11? If yes, are there any settings I can change to stop this or maybe install a program like Stop 10?
    I would rather update things when I'm ready and I'm happy to stay with 10 for as long as it's supported by Windows. Thanks for any help and advice.
    Your System One, Acer Aspire Desktop/M3910, would seem to have an i5 650 processor. That is not a supported processor so W11 won't be offered for it, only 8th gen or later Intel processors would qualify for W11.

    Your System Two, Acer Aspire 1 (A114-32-C6E1) is fully 'Windows 11 ready'. It will be offered Windows 11, in fact Windows 11 is now being offered to Windows 10 machines in the Insider Preview channel. This is how the upgrade offer appears, and what you should expect to see on your machine some time after Windows 11 is released on 5th October. Note the 'Stay on Windows 10 for now' option.

    Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?-image.png
    KB5005635 Windows 11 Insider Preview Beta and RP Build 22000.194 - Sept. 23 | Windows 11 Forum
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  8. cereberus's Avatar
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    Bree said:
    Your System One, Acer Aspire Desktop/M3910, would seem to have an i5 650 processor. That is not a supported processor so W11 won't be offered for it, only 8th gen or later Intel processors would qualify for W11.

    Your System Two, Acer Aspire 1 (A114-32-C6E1) is fully 'Windows 11 ready'. It will be offered Windows 11, in fact Windows 11 is now being offered to Windows 10 machines in the Insider Preview channel. This is how the upgrade offer appears, and what you should expect to see on your machine some time after Windows 11 is released on 5th October. Note the 'Stay on Windows 10 for now' option.

    Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?-image.png
    KB5005635 Windows 11 Insider Preview Beta and RP Build 22000.194 - Sept. 23 | Windows 11 Forum
    Ah that is interesting. I wonder what happens if you click on "stay on Windows 10 for now" i.e. does it stop displaying the download and install button etc, as it would be so easy to click that, or will it be superficial and just delay say 7 days.

    Unlike previous W10 builds which expire after 180 days, what happens here given support continues for 4 years?
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  9. Bree's Avatar
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    cereberus said:
    Ah that is interesting. I wonder what happens if you click on "stay on Windows 10 for now" i.e. does it stop displaying the download and install button etc, as it would be so easy to click that, or will it be superficial and just delay say 7 days.

    I would hope it would remove the banner advert, perhaps relegating the upgrade to the 'view optional updates' section as is already the case for optional driver updates....

    Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?-w10-view-optional-updates.png

    ...but until it's released your guess is as good as mine


    Unlike previous W10 builds which expire after 180 days, what happens here given support continues for 4 years?

    Not sure where you got 180 days from (insider builds, perhaps?). Starting with 1903 each new retail Windows 10 build is supported for 18 months from its release date. 21H1 reaches end of support on Dec 13, 2022. For Windows 11 there will be a new version once a year, each in support for 24 months.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows
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  10. cereberus's Avatar
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    Bree said:
    I would hope it would remove the banner advert, perhaps relegating the upgrade to the 'view optional updates' section as is already the case for optional driver updates....

    Is There A Danger That Windows 10 Will Automatically Update To 11?-w10-view-optional-updates.png

    ...but until it's released your guess is as good as mine





    Not sure where you got 180 days from (insider builds, perhaps?). Starting with 1903 each new retail Windows 10 build is supported for 18 months from its release date. 21H1 reaches end of support on Dec 13, 2022. For Windows 11 there will be a new version once a year, each in support for 24 months.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/faq/windows
    I meant 18 months but brain was not in gear LOL.
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