An experience of upgrading to 20H2 - comments/advice appreciated

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  1. Posts : 34,963
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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       #11

    Talk about confusing updates... see first vs last..
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  2. Posts : 17,727
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1706 (x64) [21H2]
       #12

    dalchina said:
    Talk about confusing updates... see first vs last..


    Yeah LOL. They seem to cancel each other out. With the Adobe Flash removal... being the winner.



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    Side note: Some of these 2021 updates seem to take longer to install, than they should.
    They've started mixing the SSU in with the CU.
    So the computer has to think for a while, about which to install first. :/

    But they DO work, without outside assistance.

    During the installs, I can just hear the computer thinking...

    Ok, install the CU. Oh wait, I need the SSU first. Ok, reverse the install of the CU, install the SSU, then go back to installing the CU.
    About as smooth as 16 grit sandpaper.

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  3. Posts : 34,963
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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       #13

    - thought including the SSU sounded a good idea.. there was 1 thread where the update was failing 'cos the SSU was lacking...
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  4. Posts : 17,727
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19044.1706 (x64) [21H2]
       #14

    dalchina said:
    - thought including the SSU sounded a good idea.. there was 1 thread where the update was failing 'cos the SSU was lacking...


    It's a great idea. MS just needs to adjust the way the overall monthly update "checks" to see if it needs to also install the SSU. They DO work. At present they "feel" a tad clunky, during the install though.

    IF there's another SSU coming with tomorrow's CU, we'll find out if they got the process smoothed out a bit.

    Btw, KB4023057 in your list, is an SSU.
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  5. Posts : 7,456
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #15

    I have hidden KB4023057. I didn't know it is an SSU. I consider it an update hijacker.
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  6. Posts : 121
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
       #16

    Thanks for that reassuring post @dalchina, I've got to contemplate a similar 'upgrade' for my ThinkPad T450s that's running v1909 Pro and on which I have deferred Feature Updates via Windows Updates/Advanced Options/Chose when updates are installed.
    Just out of interest, would you share which method you used to carry out the update? I'm still feeling my way with this, my first Windows 10 computer.
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  7. Posts : 34,963
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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       #17

    Hi, first, I created a current disk image.

    Then as I'd used Sledgehammer to stay with 1903, I uninstalled that (took a couple of goes reinstalling and uninstalling to get the WU service running again- not possible manually). There was an update to 1903.

    I uninstalled Aeroglass (which would be incompatible with a later build).
    I didn't change anything about Avast antivirus which I happen to run.

    Then I simply let Windows Update do its job.

    There was one case where I downloaded an iso file and used that, and performed the upgrade offline (no updates during it, as Windows Update or upgrading with updates failed on that occasion.

    Depends on what you're facing, really.

    Things to check after upgrading:
    Device Manager- any missing or indications of problems
    Devices which your manufacturer might specifically support e.g. backlighting, special keys
    Fingerprint reader- sometimes not supported after an upgrade

    Check and redo any hacks or modifications you've done that you might expect to be overridden by an upgrade.

    E.g. I have a program (now no longer available, although I've seen something similar recently) that replaces 70+ icons in imageres.dll with nice Win 7 icons in a few seconds.

    Check all startups have done so.

    Look for broken/changed features - loss of data in MS originated apps (like my reminders!)

    When happy, create a new disk imaging job and a new base (initial) disk image for the new build.

    Find solutions or replacements for things that no longer work as they did.
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  8. Posts : 121
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
       #18

    Thanks for sharing - I will updates my Macrium Reflect images, before attempting the upgrade.

    I guess the only area I feel some trepidation about are that I have created a data partition (D) and moved Documents, Pictures and other user folders over, carefully following the instructions in the Tutorials in this forum. Having read more on the subject since, now I would probably have left the default folders where they were and just created new folders for documents etc in Drive D. The only program that gave me problems after moving my data files was Outlook 2010 and they were resolved after applying a few tweaks I discovered by Googling. But Outlook doesn't always play nicely if disturbed!

    I'll probably uninstall Malwarebytes Premium, which I run alongside Defender, before trying the upgrade but I don't think I've got much else that ought to trip up Windows.

    I've got a few things that I'd like to get done before I move up but I'll add to the thread with my experiences.....
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  9. Posts : 34,963
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
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       #19

    I agree about not relocating those folders.
    a. There's no need
    b. It's easy to make a bad mistake
    c. They often contain folders created by programs you've installed, so they're not 'your' folders entirely
    d. It's easy enough to create your own and add them to a library or create your own if you wish.
    e. Some have had issues when upgrading with relocated folders.
    I can't think how definite the line is on that. I believe that should generally be fine- although be careful you don't end up with, say, a new Recovery partition on a different drive.

    It is, however, a very good idea to keep personal data off C: for O/S maintenance reasons.
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  10. Posts : 121
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
       #20

    Well, I bit the bullet. After performing up to date MR Images, uninstalling Malwarebytes Premium temporarily and turning off the 365 day Feature Update delay I'd set in Windows Update in v1909 Pro on my Thinkpad, I checked for updates and let Windows download and install 20H2.Took a couple of hours via my 4G Huawei router and no obvious problems evident. The user folders relocated to the D: Data partition seem to work as before, including the Outlook PST, big sigh of relief. I've created new MR Images and tomorrow I'll probably install WUMgr to give myself a measure of control over Windows Update in the future.
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