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  1. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.928
       #21

    mandy30 said:
    I just want to say a massive thank you to all that have given me advice,the problem is solved now,the problem was with the cumulative update 2021-03 kb5000803,its that one that keep going round in circles,I also hid the cumulative 2018-05 for windows 10 version 1607 and never installed it,I downloaded and installed the 20213 on its own rather that as a group I dont know which fixed it but it,s now up to date.I used the WAU manager that I found to be easier to understand and there was a box to stop windows looking for the updates.next to read on on creating a back up.thanks once again everyone
    Mandy,

    So, if I have understood correctly, you have reinstalled Windows but have deliberately remained on Version 1607.

    You do realize that newly-discovered vulnerabilities on out-of-support Versions such as 1607 do not get patched and that your computer is therefore more susceptible to malware than an up-to-date one?

    I had one very old computer that would not update beyond Version 1709. All attempts by me failed and another owner of the same model had the same experience. I stopped using it for any work that needed the internet and just keep it on one side ready for odd-jobs. Perhaps your computer is also an old one.

    Denis
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    Windows10 enterprise version 20H2 build 19042.867
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       #22

    Try3 said:
    Mandy,

    So, if I have understood correctly, you have reinstalled Windows but have deliberately remained on Version 1607.

    You do realize that newly-discovered vulnerabilities on out-of-support Versions such as 1607 do not get patched and that your computer is therefore more susceptible to malware than an up-to-date one?

    I had one very old computer that would not update beyond Version 1709. All attempts by me failed and another owner of the same model had the same experience. I stopped using it for any work that needed the internet and just keep it on one side ready for odd-jobs. Perhaps your computer is also an old one.

    Denis
    Hi denis,I dont know how to change to another version,in fact i did,nt even know you could do that,I thought the windows update would give me the latest version,sorry for sounding so dumb
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  3. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.928
       #23

    Mandy,

    Please check there has not been a misunderstanding. In a Command window or Powershell window enter this command
    Code:
    winver
    and post the dialog that appears.
    {You can get to a Command window or Powershell window by right-clicking on your Start button. One or other of them will be a choice in the menu that appears. The menu will also contain an Admin option for the same one of them but you do not need to use that - it would work just as well but you do not need it.}

    WU should have done Version updates for you. Windows update can automatically hold back if it detects that the computer cannot handle the latest version. Perhaps that is what is happening.

    The latest Version is 20H2. The previous Version was 2004 but they changed the Version numbering system after that.

    Ironic that this has come to light when you have been asking how to stop WU. Your Version 1607 will not have been getting any WU updates for quite some time [other than WD definitions & some minor things].

    I suggest that you make a system image then, when you are ready, try a manual update to the latest Version.
    I can talk you through that when the time comes as can many others here.
    This is what I will suggest when the time comes.
    1 Download an "ISO file" for the new Version
    Download Windows 10 ISO File -TenForumsTutorials
    2 Double-click on the ISO file to "mount" [it will appear like an extra CD drive] then run its setup.exe file. All this is done from within Windows not by booting from anything. The procedure is called a "Repair install" or "InPlace upgrade". Whilst you should always get your backups up to date before a major task such as this, it should not affect your installed applications or your own files on the computer.
    Repair Install - TenForumsTutorials

    Denis
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  4. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #24

    TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)

    Under "Select type", select "Windows (Final)".
    Under "Select version", select "Windows 10, Version 2009 - 20H2 (build 19042.631)".
    Under "Select edition", select "Windows 10".
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  5. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.928
       #25

    Mandy,

    You do not have to consider that reference to Techbench yet. It is one of the options that is explained in the tutorial I gave you a link to about ISO files.

    Denis
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  6. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #26

    TechBench allows direct download from Microsoft, the most convenient way.
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  7. Try3's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.928
       #27

    Matthew Wai said:
    TechBench allows direct download from Microsoft, the most convenient way.
    So does everything else in the tutorial I gave Mandy a link to.

    I earnestly suggest that you wait to allow Mandy to get to grips with system images and then get herself ready to discuss further steps.

    Denis
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  8. Posts : 19
    Windows10 enterprise version 20H2 build 19042.867
    Thread Starter
       #28

    I really appreciate the help you have given me,especially denis.I have woken up today feeling terrible so for now Im not in the right frame of mind to attempt this,once im feeling better I will give it a go,thanks once again

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    just to let you know I am now running version 20HT,I managed to follow your instructions and updated it,I have also done a system image and system recovery disc,its taken a long time but well worth it,I am still going to use the WAU manager as I like the program.So a massive thank you to all that has helped me,especially denis who gave me very clear instructions.What i wondered was if i ever did completely wipe my hard drive again do I have to install windows from my cd and do the update again or is there another quicker way.
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  9. Try3's Avatar
    Posts : 7,443
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 20H2 Build 19042.928
       #29

    mandy30 said:
    just to let you know I am now running version 20HT
    I think you mean 20H2 [I can see that in your My computer entry].

    mandy30 said:
    I have also done a system image and system recovery disc
    Perhaps I am overreacting to your particular choice of words.
    Judging by what has been discussed before in this thread, I think you mean a Macrium Reflect system image so you are referring to the Macrium Reflect boot USB.
    [It was Macrium that was discussed in posts #16 & later.]

    mandy30 said:
    What i wondered was if i ever did completely wipe my hard drive again do I have to install windows from my cd and do the update again or is there another quicker way.
    You should not have to install Windows again. You can just use your Macrium Reflect system image to restore an earlier state of the OS disk that predates whatever problem makes you consider reinstallation. It is an awful lot less work than a reinstallation as well.

    Do remember that the Macrium Reflect system image covers the whole of your OS disk including any of your own files on it so restoring the image would overwrite your own files with whatever their state was when the image was made. You need to make separate backups of your own files. I generally make a new system image every month but make backups of my own files much, much more often.

    "CD"? I imagine that most people make a Windows 10 installation USB rather than CD. It is easier, it can be re-written whenever you want and it does not break if you sit on it.

    Denis
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  10. Chrysalis's Avatar
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    Win 10 1809 LTSC
       #30

    mandy30 said:
    Hi I would like to use wumngr but I just wanted advice on what to do with windows updates so I can just run this without windows searching for updates

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    Thank you so much Paul,I will have a read of these later and hopefully know what to set it at,I thought the links you sent were just how to disable windows automatic updates,did,nt realise they were for wumngr too
    Hi

    Direct answer to your question is you do "not" need to ever enable windows updates again, it can be solely managed from wumgr.

    Click the refresh icon in wumgr if they not showing, this will initiate its own check, if it doesnt show available updates after you click the icon then none are available.
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