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  1.    16 Aug 2015 #31

    I just finished the Win10 upgrade on my old Win7 SSD. Of course I had to download the upgrade myself because, even though I had registered for the upgrade, I never got it. But that's besides the point now.

    As I suspected I have wasted even more time doing the upgrade because, apparently, I would have to do another clean install of Win10 anyway, and, beyond that, I suspect that would not work because the Win10 ISO file I have is for Win10 Pro and my old Win7 install was Home Premium.

    So it looks like MS is going to get their blood money from me no matter what. Frankly the money is worth less to me that the time it would take to reinstall all my software and reset all my customization parameters. I guess that's all that really matters.

    To quote Ralph Cramden: What a revolting development this is.

    Edit:

    Back on Win10. As expected it still says it will expire on Jan 20, 2016. I'll call MS tomorrow and see if I have any reasonable options. I'm expecting not to.
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  2. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,881
    Windows 10 Pro
       16 Aug 2015 #32

    bbinard,

    Millions of people have now upgraded to Windows 10 absolutely for free. You know how? They followed the directions that Microsoft gave to them. They upgraded an installed and running version of Windows 7/8/8.1 to the same version of Windows 10. And thousands of those people have since wiped clean that upgrade and have done clean installs with the same version of Windows 10.

    You have tried every way possible to do it your way - not the way that Microsoft said to do it to get it for free. It's not Microsoft's fault that you couldn't follow their directions to get the free, permanently activated upgrade.

    First you used a preview key. And that's what you got. A preview that would last for 6 months. Then you tried going from Home version to Pro version. Nowhere did Microsoft ever say they were going to give you a free upgrade from Home to Pro.
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  3.    16 Aug 2015 #33

    LCDR:

    I understand all that. Except I never wanted or asked for a free anything. At the time I did the 10 install (I think it was on the Wed. or Thu. in the week before 29 Jul) Pro was the only version of 64-bit build 10240 that MS made available. So that is what I used. I was perfectly happy with Home Premium and would have used that if it had been available. But it wasn't.

    At that time no one knew anything about "digital entitlement" or the fact that meaningful activation codes were not part of the Win 10 design base. MS published an activation code along with the ISO file and many people, not just Insiders, installed with that. I was one of them because my 7 system was badly bloated and I needed to do a clean install of something.

    It wasn't until much later (for me, today) that it became clear that the rules of the game were changed with no prior notification. It is regrettable that you feel I have done something wrong or unethical, but I can't do anything about that. What I can tell you is I did what seemed to be the right thing at the time. And I am still trying to do that.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,881
    Windows 10 Pro
       16 Aug 2015 #34

    bbinnard said: View Post
    What I can tell you is I did what seemed to be the right thing at the time. And I am still trying to do that.
    K. I apologize. Let's put it this way - you have the exact results that Microsoft has always stated would be, given the actions you have tried. And there is no "blood money" that Microsoft is getting. You can either do it their way to get a free permanent upgrade (for that particular computer upgraded), or you can pay them for a license to do it how you like. But they have provided a method to end up with a free, clean install of Windows 10. You just have to put forth a little bit of careful effort to get it.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       16 Aug 2015 #35

    So why did you download the Pro edition when your Win7 is the Home Premium edition?

    All you had to do was ask. I suppose someone should have pointed to the upgrade FAQ, but if you knew you had Win7 Home, why didn't you download Win10 Home?

    You're making this more complicated than necessary by requiring two drive installs and by using the wrong install media.

    To correct my omission, see: Windows 10 - Upgrade Installation - Windows 10 Forums

    So - back to square one, restore Win7 Home, download Win10 Home, upgrade Win7 Home... Clean install Win10 Home on the SSD.
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  6.    16 Aug 2015 #36

    Slarty:

    Yup, I could do that - "that" being a clean install of 10 Home since I have already done the upgrade of 7 Home to 10 Home.

    But like I said, at this point the value of the money to purchase a license for 10 Pro is less valuable to me than the time it would take to do a clean install of 10 and then get it back into working order. So I'll plead my case to MS tomorrow and maybe they will be sufficiently forthcoming to give me some sort of discount (or something.)
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  7. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 234
    10 preview 64bit
       16 Aug 2015 #37

    You clearly have not read >>properly<< the advise, and information given to you.

    The consumer release of the Free upgrade was NEVER ever posted as being BEFORE the 29th,
    BUT you did it prior to that date anyway, which was the start of your problem.

    You obviously did not use the Windows update method on your ORIGINAL OS, ie the W10 tray icon.

    And when you were told exactly how to correctly do it You didn't,

    you are your own worst enemy

    IF you recount what you have posted here to MS, they will tell you exactly the same
    You will not get a discount as the like for lke upgrade is still FREE

    Roy
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  8. Joined : Aug 2015
    Penn's Woods
    Posts : 1,176
    Windows 10 Home
       16 Aug 2015 #38

    Hey, bbinnard:

    You don't have a free upgrade to Win 8 Pro tucked away somewhere do you? - on the off chance you got this system with Win7 Home Premium at the time when MS was giving out Win8 Pro upgrades (or maybe it was a downgraded laptop we chose with upgrade entitlement?).

    Point is, the path we took on my wife's laptop was install the Win8 Pro upgrade from a DVD we burned end of 2012, did the Win 8.1 Pro update just for grins, THEN did the free Win10 PRO UPGRADE. It's activated fine by that path.

    We might opt to do a clean install of WIn10 Pro at some point but she'll shudder at the thought of me reinstalling all her programs for her (I guess she trusts me enough on data).

    Just a thought in case you have that free Win8 Pro upgrade in mothballs somewhere...
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 441
    Windows 10
       16 Aug 2015 #39

    I said he would be in the same situation, the time he spent today protesting he could of re installed his programs.

    Why would you even make a build that goes out of date your main OS.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       16 Aug 2015 #40

    bbinnard said: View Post
    Slarty:

    Yup, I could do that - "that" being a clean install of 10 Home since I have already done the upgrade of 7 Home to 10 Home.

    But like I said, at this point the value of the money to purchase a license for 10 Pro is less valuable to me than the time it would take to do a clean install of 10 and then get it back into working order. So I'll plead my case to MS tomorrow and maybe they will be sufficiently forthcoming to give me some sort of discount (or something.)
    Sounds like a plan, I would NOT expect any mercy (read discount) from Microsoft , but hey, if you never ask ....

    So, is the plan is to purchase Retail Win10 Pro and Clean install on the SSD?
    Or is the plan to upgrade the HDD install to Win10 Pro.
    Upgrading the HDD is the only way to avoid re-installing your programs.

    You could copy the HDD to the SSD and upgrade Windows on that device.

    What you cannot do is install Windows 10 Pro on both drives without violating the EULA. I know some people don't take that agreement very seriously, but I made my living in the computer industry and whenever someone did a twofer, they cost me a raise.

    What you can do is have Win10 Home on one drive and Win10 Pro on the other.

    I guess I'm done, you're on a new path ... good luck.
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