Absent and Vanishing 2004 in Windows Update

If there's another thread that targets my experience with Windows Update, please link it up in a reply.

Dell i3-6100/H110 system running Home since first power-up 2017.
Got "2004 on it's way" in June and July. The 2004 feature update showed up in August. I couldn't devote the time for it at that point. In September, it was gone, only 1909 cumulative and .NET updates. Still on 1909, it's reporting up to date.

i9-9900K/Z390 built in February, running Pro installed from a 1909 OEI DVD.
Never a peep about 2004. 1909 cumulative and .NET updates. Still on 1909, it's reporting up to date.

(As I usually wait three weeks after The Tuesday, I won't know what October will bring. I'll report back when I find out.)

• In scouring teh intuhwebz and various forums, I am not alone in this, so in the meantime, with 20H2 arriving this month, what bodes for those still running 1909 and using Windows Update? Continue waiting for 2004? Or will 20H2 show up as a 2004/20H2 update??

I'm loathe to force a manual update on either system. Windows Update "thinks" these systems are incompatible, so then would the compatibility checker.

Sidebar:
E8400/G35 system, built in 2008, running Pro since 2014, Insider Program Tech Preview, slow ring. Removed it from the program about three years ago.
Got 2004 feature update in August. Or July, I forget.

Back in the 90's, keeping NT4 systems updated was easier...

Hello @Ray Redbad,
I would suggest learning how to make a full backup if you don't already have one using something like Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect

After that you could How to get the Windows 10 May 2020 Update version 2004 . If that doesn't work out, you can use your full backup to restore back to your current working state.

steve108 said:

Hello @Ray Redbad,
I would suggest learning how to make a full backup if you don't already have one using something like Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect
After that you could How to get the Windows 10 May 2020 Update version 2004 . If that doesn't work out, you can use your full backup to restore back to your current working state.

Are you sure about that?

Rey Redbad said:

Are you sure about that?

Be more specific. Who's on first and what is that?

Rey Redbad said:

Back in the 90's, keeping NT4 systems updated was easier...

Sadly, with NT4, even when I never got a chance to test NT4, it looks like you must manually install the updates in a certain order and it's easy to screw up. At least, it was true, not too long before it got EOL'ed. As much as I didn't want to say that.

Yes, heard good things about NT4! Topcat over at badcaps . net, regularly installs that on his own old school builds.

I can understand your frustration with Windows 10! I just saw Windows 10 having a glitch yesterday! Be wary of Windows Update possibly not showing a failure in the Windows Update UI, but logs an error in the event log!

Rey Redbad said:

Got "2004 on it's way" in June and July. The 2004 feature update showed up in August. I couldn't devote the time for it at that point. In September, it was gone, only 1909 cumulative and .NET updates. Still on 1909, it's reporting up to date.

Apparently this may have been an unintended side-effect of the optional 16th September cumulative update...

erpster4 said:

it appears that the KB4577062 CU for 1903 & 1909 may block the feature update to 2004 as recently reported from here:
KB4577062 blocks feature updates on Windows 10 V190x and 2004 | Born's Tech and Windows World

KB4577062 CU Win 10 v1903 build 18362.1110 and v1909 build 18363.1110 - post #3

...if so, then hopefully it should be corrected in the next one this Patch Tuesday (13th) and the 2004 update option should reappear.

RJARRRPCGP said:

Sadly, with NT4, even when I never got a chance to test NT4, it looks like you must manually install the updates in a certain order and it's easy to screw up. At least, it was true, not too long before it got EOL'ed.
Yes, heard good things about NT4! Topcat over at badcaps . net, regularly installs that on his own old school builds.

Yeah, one never really knew when an update was needed until it got posted up in CompuServe (which we checked several times daily) or a floppy arrived in the mail. The enterprise I worked in at the time had about 8000 NT systems, so our team was pretty well versed.

Topcat is amazing. I might look him up.

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Bree said:

Apparently this may have been an unintended side-effect of the optional 16th September cumulative update...

Thanks so much for that info. The Born's Tech article is but two days old.

The i9 box did not get KB4577062.

The i6 box was updated to the 09/08 update on 10/08, a bit longer than my usual 2-3 week delay. Prior to doing the update, as I detailed in my OP, the previously available 2004 Feature Update was gone. I did do the KB4577062 update at that time.

It'll be interesting what this October's Patch Update will bring. Which I won't get to until the 29th or so.

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Still an enigma, for those dependent on Windows Update, with 20H2 arriving this month, what bodes for those still running 1909 after tomorrow's October Patch Tuesday? Continue waiting for 2004? Or will 20H2 show up as a 2004/20H2 update??

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steve108 said:

Be more specific.

Well, that backup thing. I searched teh gougle and all I could find was reference to moving a console or column lever into a position marked with the letter "R." Does that need a special keyboard??

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Ghot said:

In-place upgrade, myself.
If Microsoft sees anything out of the ordinary, it will stall the Feature Update, until it can figure out what that abnormality was. But with an In-place Upgrade you can over-ride that.

Thanks. That's what I meant by "I'm loathe to force a manual update on either system. Windows Update 'thinks' these systems are incompatible, so then would the compatibility checker."

Overriding is unacceptable. As well, my posting here specifically focused on these half year updates in relation to WINDOWS UPDATE. However, I can report my 12-year old neighbor's kid had the same advice about doing the backup and in-place upgrade thing. But he says Macrium Reflect is junk.

What did the wise young lad suggest instead of Macrium Reflect?

Please send him here to enlighten us after he's 13.