Windows version 2004 update time?

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  1. Posts : 101
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       #1

    Windows version 2004 update time?


    Hi people,

    I usually wait three months before I make the jump to the next version of Windows, and I finally decided to install 2004. I clicked on the install button at 10:53pm and it finished at 3.10am.

    I'm just wondering if any other people had such a lengthy install process?

    I'm beginning to think if I had fresh installed from ISO and spent the laborious process of re-installing all my programs I still would have managed it more promptly.
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  2. Posts : 4,594
    Windows 10 Pro
       #2

    You may want to wait even longer, there are many complaints about 2004, where as 1909 is sound
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  3. Posts : 43,055
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #3

    Hi, if you care to search the forum there are a couple of long threads where upgrade times are compared (for previous builds). Some report 8 hours or more. Perhaps can be shorter if you choose not to accept updates as part of the upgrade process.
    Last edited by dalchina; 30 Aug 2020 at 02:43.
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  4. Posts : 31,721
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    templar said:
    ...finally decided to install 2004. I clicked on the install button at 10:53pm and it finished at 3.10am.
    I'm just wondering if any other people had such a lengthy install process?
    I'm beginning to think if I had fresh installed from ISO and spent the laborious process of re-installing all my programs I still would have managed it more promptly.

    Did you update to 2004 by clicking 'download and install' in Windows Update? If so, that is possibly the slowest way to upgrade. An in-place upgrade using the ISO is quicker, and still keeps all your files and programs.

    The time varies according to your processor power and speed of the hard drive (HDD or SSD). I got similar times to you when I timed the update my System One to 2004...

    How long does the 2004 upgrade take using Windows Update?

    Actually it was no slower than when the same machine updated to 1903. I gave an explanation of why WU can take so much longer here:

    How long does the 1903 upgrade take using Windows Update?

    TLDR: ...because it uses the Unified Update Platform (UUP).
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  5. TV2
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    W10 Pro 22H2
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    templar said:

    I'm just wondering if any other people had such a lengthy install process?
    It depends on a few things.
    I recently updated to version 2004 on 2 PCs. One was an ancient laptop (circa 2008) on Wifi that took about 4 hours. The other was a more modern desktop (System #2 in my Specs) on Ethernet that took less than 2 hours. Both were installed directly from Windows Update. Both installs went fine and I can report no problems.

    I typically jot down the time it takes on these big updates, here is what I have for these two machines:

    Getting things Ready: 6min LT Laptop - 4 minutes DT Desktop
    Downloading: 40 min LT - 3 min DT
    Installing: 90 min LT - 60 min DT
    Restarts, Working on Updates, "Almost there": 2hr 10 min LT - 15 min DT

    Summary: On desktop: 4.5 Hrs Laptop, 1.4 Hrs Desktop

    I'll be doing a newer laptop and a newer desktop in the next few weeks. It will be interesting to see how that goes.
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  6. Posts : 31,721
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    TV2 said:
    It depends on a few things.
    I recently updated to version 2004 on 2 PCs. One was an ancient laptop (circa 2008) on Wifi that took about 4 hours. The other was a more modern desktop (System #2 in my Specs) on Ethernet that took less than 2 hours. Both were installed directly from Windows Update. Both installs went fine and I can report no problems......

    ..Summary: On desktop: 4.5 Hrs Laptop, 1.4 Hrs Desktop

    That sounds typical. As I said earlier, an in-place upgrade using an ISO will be faster than Windows Update - typically finishing in 50-60% of the time WU would take on the same spec machine.

    Windows Update has to do far more processing than an ISO update. This is because it uses the Unified Update Platform (UUP). This is designed to reduce the download size of an update by only downloading the changes, not the full set of files as are used in the ISO. With an ISO you just replace the old system files with new ones, but UUP works by applying patches to the old files to create the new ones. The end result is exactly the same though.


    Bree said:
    ...My recommendation: unless you really need to see the Feature Update listed in update history, then download the ISO and use that to upgrade.

    How long does the 2004 upgrade take using Windows Update?
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  7. TV2
    Posts : 2,221
    W10 Pro 22H2
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    Understood. I was just answering the OP's primary question about how long this takes and is it normal to take so long.

    Regarding the ISO install, isn't in possible to do an in-place upgrade that would not require reinstalling all his programs? He seems to think that is the only possibility with ISO.
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  8. Posts : 56,834
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
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    TV2 said:
    Understood. I was just answering the OP's primary question about how long this takes and is it normal to take so long.

    Regarding the ISO install, isn't in possible to do an in-place upgrade that would not require reinstalling all his programs? He seems to think that is the only possibility with ISO.
    In-place with an ISO preserves his apps, files, and most tweak settings.

    Timings are relative. I have a pretty well loaded up machine and my specs are listed. OS and all user files is about 32GB. An in-place for me runs 25-30 minutes. I always choose to get updates as part of the process, otherwise I'll have to do the cumulative at the end anyway. Only .Net and maybe a Flash update are additional here.
    Last edited by f14tomcat; 30 Aug 2020 at 10:53.
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  9. Posts : 31,721
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       #9

    TV2 said:
    Regarding the ISO install, isn't it possible to do an in-place upgrade that would not require reinstalling all his programs? He seems to think that is the only possibility with ISO.

    Correct. @templar could mount the ISO within the current Windows and runs the Setup.exe that is on the root of the virtual drive. It will perform an upgrade, keeping all files and installed programs. It has the same end result as letting Windows Update perform the upgrade.
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  10. Posts : 101
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
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    Bree said:
    Did you update to 2004 by clicking 'download and install' in Windows Update? If so, that is possibly the slowest way to upgrade. An in-place upgrade using the ISO is quicker, and still keeps all your files and programs.

    The time varies according to your processor power and speed of the hard drive (HDD or SSD). I got similar times to you when I timed the update my System One to 2004...

    How long does the 2004 upgrade take using Windows Update?

    Actually it was no slower than when the same machine updated to 1903. I gave an explanation of why WU can take so much longer here:

    How long does the 1903 upgrade take using Windows Update?

    TLDR: ...because it uses the Unified Update Platform (UUP).
    Yes, I used the "download and install" in Windows Update.

    One thing I did notice is that if you have Scheduled Optimisation off (which I do), it is turned backed on again after the version update.

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    TV2 said:
    It depends on a few things.
    I recently updated to version 2004 on 2 PCs. One was an ancient laptop (circa 2008) on Wifi that took about 4 hours. The other was a more modern desktop (System #2 in my Specs) on Ethernet that took less than 2 hours. Both were installed directly from Windows Update. Both installs went fine and I can report no problems.

    I typically jot down the time it takes on these big updates, here is what I have for these two machines:

    Getting things Ready: 6min LT Laptop - 4 minutes DT Desktop
    Downloading: 40 min LT - 3 min DT
    Installing: 90 min LT - 60 min DT
    Restarts, Working on Updates, "Almost there": 2hr 10 min LT - 15 min DT

    Summary: On desktop: 4.5 Hrs Laptop, 1.4 Hrs Desktop

    I'll be doing a newer laptop and a newer desktop in the next few weeks. It will be interesting to see how that goes.
    The getting things ready and downloading phases didn't take that long. It was mainly the Installing and working on updates parts.
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