Heart Stopper


  1. Posts : 168
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
       #1

    Heart Stopper


    This afternoon, MS pushed two innocuous Windows 10 updates. The whole process took about three minutes and seemed be without issue. However, upon restart I had no connection to my ISP and each attempt to connect was met with the ominous message "Bad Gateway."

    So I tried ipconfig /all and it showed the correct IP address for the computer and the correct gateway. At this point, I'm really, really nervous and contemplating what to do next. The anxiety meter is creeping into the red when, all of a sudden the internet is back in fine form.

    It seems that my ISP choose to go South at exactly the same time as the updates installed. How often does that happen?

    All's well.

    JackHughs
      My Computer


  2. Posts : 12,492
    Win10 Version 21H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro
       #2

    Yeah, I had that problem with several sites awhile ago, finally everything came back. I did get the Upgrade to Version 2004 finished on an HP Notebook, no problem marks on any of the hardware. It's a simple 15", 1.50GHz CPU and 4GB RAM, has only a single slot and max for it is 8GB, good for a loaner.
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  3. Posts : 625
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64
       #3

    Lately, losing the internet connection on reboot, looks like a common problem with Windows 10, at least with 1909 and recent updates.
    In fact, it looks like rebooting Windows 10 can cause the router to crash and reboot! (Occurs randomly, I can't tell if it will happen again when restarting Windows) I don't remember such behavior before spring of 2020.

    At first, it looks like the Windows 7 SP1 behavior, where it loves to claim no internet and stays like that for possibly as long as nearly 5 minutes. But, I never saw the same router reset with 7!
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  4. Posts : 168
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #4

    RJARRRPCGP said:
    Lately, losing the internet connection on reboot, looks like a common problem with Windows 10, at least with 1909 and recent updates.
    In fact, it looks like rebooting Windows 10 can cause the router to crash and reboot! (Occurs randomly, I can't tell if it will happen again when restarting Windows) I don't remember such behavior before spring of 2020.

    At first, it looks like the Windows 7 SP1 behavior, where it loves to claim no internet and stays like that for possibly as long as nearly 5 minutes. But, I never saw the same router reset with 7!
    Hi,

    If I understand correctly, the Windows 10 restart following the two updates could have caused my router to crash and reboot. That's a bit frightening. I'm already leery of updates and this info doesn't help.

    JackHughs.
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 2,078
    Windows 10 Pro
       #5

    RJARRRPCGP said:
    Lately, losing the internet connection on reboot, looks like a common problem with Windows 10, at least with 1909 and recent updates.
    In fact, it looks like rebooting Windows 10 can cause the router to crash and reboot! (Occurs randomly, I can't tell if it will happen again when restarting Windows) I don't remember such behavior before spring of 2020.

    At first, it looks like the Windows 7 SP1 behavior, where it loves to claim no internet and stays like that for possibly as long as nearly 5 minutes. But, I never saw the same router reset with 7!
    I'm glad I saw this thread.....the exact same crap is happening with my system both 2004 and 1909. On a restrart, cold boot and in sleep mode. I've been pulling my hair trying to solve this thing.
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  6. Posts : 625
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64
       #6

    The router, is the Technicolor DWA1230. At least what I still consider very recently, after rebooting Windows 10 1909, I would suddenly, but only sometimes, see the router go through the motions of a reboot, just like if I held down the tiny reset button in the back!
    Looks a lot like they use Open WRT and that making a connection request apparently can cause a panic.

    I suspect a cumulative update, likely as recent as spring, has a side effect.

    And it doesn't look like the July cumulative update is the cause. More likely, been going on since May, maybe June, if not a bit before May.

    I don't recall any January cumulative updates having this issue.
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  7. Posts : 168
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #7

    I've been watching my router each time I open the updated Windows 10 computer. So far, I've seen no signs of a router reboot. This is good.

    JackHughs

    - - - Updated - - -

    I've been watching my router each time I open the updated Windows 10 computer. So far, I've seen no signs of a router reboot. This is good.

    JackHughs
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 2,078
    Windows 10 Pro
       #8

    JackHughs said:
    I've been watching my router each time I open the updated Windows 10 computer. So far, I've seen no signs of a router reboot. This is good.

    JackHughs

    - - - Updated - - -

    I've been watching my router each time I open the updated Windows 10 computer. So far, I've seen no signs of a router reboot. This is good.

    JackHughs
    Great news!

    I ended up changing out my ethernet cable and doing 2 modem/router factory resets.Now my NIC seems to be working as it should. So on a restart now......I get the LAN connection icon showing I have a connection that instantaneous. Knock on wood.
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  9. Posts : 625
    Windows 10 Pro 21H2 x64
       #9

    Well, for at least this week, I never recalled it giving me much of a hard time, if at all.

    Looks like the longest it hasn't gave me a hard time. (Including seeing the router going through the motions of a reboot)
      My Computers


  10. Posts : 13,704
    Windows10
       #10

    JackHughs said:
    This afternoon, MS pushed two innocuous Windows 10 updates. The whole process took about three minutes and seemed be without issue. However, upon restart I had no connection to my ISP and each attempt to connect was met with the ominous message "Bad Gateway."

    So I tried ipconfig /all and it showed the correct IP address for the computer and the correct gateway. At this point, I'm really, really nervous and contemplating what to do next. The anxiety meter is creeping into the red when, all of a sudden the internet is back in fine form.

    It seems that my ISP choose to go South at exactly the same time as the updates installed. How often does that happen?

    All's well.

    JackHughs
    More likely the ISP had already glitched but existing connections were still working but when you upgraded, the ISP connection had to be fully restablished which can take a few minutes.
      My Computer


 

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