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  1. Posts : 39
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    updates restart goes to SSD screen warning


    The past 2 months updates means that on restarting, the SSD manufacturer screen comes up with warning of imminent failure. SSD is 2 years old with W10 Pro 64 bit put on as a completely new computer PC. If I press the on/off button everything reverts to normal windows on starting up. But if I ever use restart from power it reverts to the warning message. Hence can not 'restart' but must shut down. I seem to recall a similar glitch last year that affected my Avira antivirus which was never resolved. Using Bitdefender AV. I have delayed updates, but seems to have begun with the KB 453 / 2693 + 7759 + 8674 updates. I am a technonerd - so go easy please if you have any suggestions. Verging close to Linux now.
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  2. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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    Hi piepower

    First please confirm you have all your data backed up off machine.


    Then please install Crystal Disk Info Standard edition

    CrystalDiskInfo – Crystal Dew World

    Once installed click on "Function" tab > Advance Feature > Raw Values > 10[Dec]

    This presents error values in decimal amounts.

    What is the overall health status of boot disk? Are any of the categories showing a warning? Are you getting seek, write or read errors?


    Have you considered removing updates and seeing if issue resolves.


    Are you Imaging your machine on a regular basis?
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  3. Posts : 39
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    Thread Starter
       #3

    data backed up
    uninstalled updates - no difference
    Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool test - pass x3
    wary of software I don't know viz crystal disk
    Not certain what you mean by imaging machine
    I am a technoidiot !
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  4. Matthew Wai's Avatar
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  5. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #5

    Crystal Disk is safe.

    Download and scan before using.

    It is used by members, example attached.

    Hardware Thread 2020

    I usually recommend Macrium Reflect free for Imaging. There are other tools.

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect

    Matthew has provided another alternative.
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  6. Posts : 39
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    Thread Starter
       #6

    crystal dew results


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 7.0.0 x64 (C) 2007-2019 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World: Crystal Dew World
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    * MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
    * KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

    [Read]
    Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 518.821 MB/s [ 494.8 IOPS] < 16131.92 us>
    Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 475.389 MB/s [ 453.4 IOPS] < 2199.76 us>
    Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 115.049 MB/s [ 28088.1 IOPS] < 18170.05 us>
    Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 20.303 MB/s [ 4956.8 IOPS] < 201.12 us>

    [Write]
    Sequential 1MiB (Q= 8, T= 1): 212.648 MB/s [ 202.8 IOPS] < 29084.00 us>
    Sequential 1MiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 113.234 MB/s [ 108.0 IOPS] < 9063.26 us>
    Random 4KiB (Q= 32, T=16): 129.482 MB/s [ 31611.8 IOPS] < 15251.54 us>
    Random 4KiB (Q= 1, T= 1): 18.911 MB/s [ 4616.9 IOPS] < 214.31 us>

    Profile: Default
    Test: 1 GiB (x5) [Interval: 5 sec] <DefaultAffinity=DISABLED>
    Date: 2020/03/05 11:48:36
    OS: Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 18363] (x64)

    everything is green
    note no 'function' tab on downloaded version.
    Things seem stable, except 'restart' still results in going to SSD manufacturer screen with the "imminent" warning. only happened after W10 updates in January and February. So hard to divorce view it is not another Microsoft release issue.
    Regarding mirror image - if the oS is unstable, would a mirror copy not also be unstable if so performed?
    J
    techno fruitloop
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  7. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #7

    Yes a mirror image would also be unstable but if done regularly and versions kept you could restore a version before the issues started.

    Strange you don't have function tab. I use same version.

    updates restart goes to SSD screen warning-image.png


    If you look at your windows update history, near the bottom of that screen is a listing of other things that were updated. Any chance your storage driver was updated?

    Restart loads a "new" version of Windows where as powering off and on use information stored on the last shutdown to speed up the load.

    This sounds driver related. Any of your drivers reporting issues? When did the feature update 1909 get installed on this device.
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  8. Posts : 39
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    Thread Starter
       #8

    OK then


    1. OK wrong version of crystal disk - '7' instead of 8.4.1
    2. Results:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskInfo 8.4.1 (C) 2008-2020 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World: Crystal Dew World
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    OS : Windows 10 Professional [10.0 Build 18363] (x64)
    Date : 2020/03/05 13:59:19

    -- Controller Map ----------------------------------------------------------
    + Standard SATA AHCI Controller [ATA]
    - ADATA SU650
    - TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224GB
    - Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller [SCSI]

    -- Disk List ---------------------------------------------------------------
    (1) ADATA SU650 : 240.0 GB [0/0/0, pd1] - m2

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    (1) ADATA SU650
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Model : ADATA SU650
    Firmware : P1222A
    Serial Number : AA000000000000000008
    Disk Size : 240.0 GB (8.4/137.4/240.0/240.0)
    Buffer Size : Unknown
    Queue Depth : 32
    # of Sectors : 468862128
    Rotation Rate : ---- (SSD)
    Interface : Serial ATA
    Major Version : ACS-2
    Minor Version : ACS-2 Revision 3
    Transfer Mode : SATA/600 | SATA/600
    Power On Hours : 1449 hours
    Power On Count : 3708 count
    Host Reads : 12688 GB
    Host Writes : 7409 GB
    NAND Writes : 9772 GB
    Temperature : 40 C (104 F)
    Health Status : Good (100 %)
    Features : S.M.A.R.T., APM, 48bit LBA, NCQ, TRIM
    APM Level : 0080h [ON]
    AAM Level : ----
    Drive Letter : C:

    -- S.M.A.R.T. --------------------------------------------------------------
    ID Cur Wor Thr RawValues(6) Attribute Name
    01 100 100 _50 000000000000 Raw Read Error Rate
    05 100 100 _50 000000000052 Reallocated Sectors Count
    09 100 100 _50 0000000005A9 Power-On Hours
    0C 100 100 _50 000000000E7C Power Cycle Count
    A0 100 100 _50 00000000002B Uncorrectable Sector Count
    A1 100 100 _50 000003333330 Valid Spare Blocks
    A3 100 100 _50 00000000001E Initial Invalid Blocks
    A4 100 100 _50 00000000F350 Total TLC Erase Count
    A5 100 100 _50 0000000000A1 Maximum TLC Erase Count
    A6 100 100 _50 000000000001 Minimum TLC Erase Count
    A7 100 100 _50 000000000078 Average TLC Erase Count
    A8 100 100 _50 000000000BB8 Vendor Specific
    A9 100 100 _50 000000000060 Percentage Lifetime Remaining
    AF 100 100 _50 000000000000 Vendor Specific
    B0 100 100 _50 000000000000 Vendor Specific
    B1 100 100 _50 000000000000 Vendor Specific
    B2 100 100 _50 000000000052 Vendor Specific
    B5 100 100 _50 000000000000 Program Fail Count
    B6 100 100 _50 000000000000 Erase Fail Count
    C0 100 100 _50 0000000000E5 Power-off Retract Count
    C2 100 100 _50 000000000028 Temperature
    C3 100 100 _50 0000000F957C Cumulative ECC Bit Correction Count
    C4 100 100 _50 00000000002B Reallocation Event Count
    C5 100 100 _50 000000000052 Current Pending Sector Count
    C6 100 100 _50 00000000002B Smart Off-line Scan Uncorrectable Error Count
    C7 100 100 _50 000000000003 Ultra DMA CRC Error Rate
    E8 100 100 _50 000003333330 Available Reserved Space
    F1 100 100 _50 000000039E39 Total LBA Write
    F2 100 100 _50 000000063203 Total LBA Read
    F5 100 100 _50 00000004C595 Cumulative Program NAND Pages

    -- IDENTIFY_DEVICE ---------------------------------------------------------
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
    000: 0040 3FFF C837 0010 0000 0000 003F 0000 0000 0000
    010: 4141 3030 3030 3030 3030 3030 3030 3030 3030 3038
    020: 0000 0000 0000 5031 3232 3241 2020 4144 4154 4120
    030: 5355 3635 3020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
    040: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 8001 4000 2F00
    050: 4000 0200 0000 0007 3FFF 0010 003F FC10 00FB 9101
    060: FFFF 0FFF 0000 0007 0003 0078 0078 0078 0078 4D20
    070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 001F 850E 0086 0044 0040
    080: 03F0 0110 346B 7D09 4163 3469 BC09 4163 207F 0001
    090: 0001 0080 FFFE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
    100: 44B0 1BF2 0000 0000 0000 0008 4000 0000 0000 0000
    110: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 401C
    120: 401C 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0029 534D
    130: 4920 3232 3538 5854 2050 524F 4A45 4354 0000 0000
    140: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
    150: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
    160: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0003 0001
    170: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 2020 2020 2020 2020
    180: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
    190: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
    200: 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 0000 0000 0000 4000
    210: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0001 0000 0000
    220: 0000 0000 10FF 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
    230: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0020 0020 0000 0000 0000 0000
    240: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
    250: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 45A5

    -- SMART_READ_DATA ---------------------------------------------------------
    +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
    000: 01 00 01 32 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32
    010: 00 64 64 52 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 32 00 64 64 A9
    020: 05 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 00 64 64 7C 0E 00 00 00
    030: 00 00 A0 32 00 64 64 2B 00 00 00 00 00 00 A1 33
    040: 00 64 64 30 33 33 03 00 00 00 A3 32 00 64 64 1E
    050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 32 00 64 64 50 F3 00 00 00
    060: 00 00 A5 32 00 64 64 A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 A6 32
    070: 00 64 64 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 A7 32 00 64 64 78
    080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 A8 32 00 64 64 B8 0B 00 00 00
    090: 00 00 A9 32 00 64 64 60 00 00 00 00 00 00 AF 32
    0A0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B0 32 00 64 64 00
    0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 32 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00
    0C0: 00 00 B2 32 00 64 64 52 00 00 00 00 00 00 B5 32
    0D0: 00 64 64 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B6 32 00 64 64 00
    0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 32 00 64 64 E5 00 00 00 00
    0F0: 00 00 C2 22 00 64 64 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 32
    100: 00 64 64 7C 95 0F 00 00 00 00 C4 32 00 64 64 2B
    110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 32 00 64 64 52 00 00 00 00
    120: 00 00 C6 32 00 64 64 2B 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 32
    130: 00 64 64 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 E8 32 00 64 64 30
    140: 33 33 03 00 00 00 F1 30 00 64 64 39 9E 03 00 00
    150: 00 00 F2 30 00 64 64 03 32 06 00 00 00 00 F5 32
    160: 00 64 64 95 C5 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 78 00 00 11
    170: 02 00 01 00 02 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    180: 00 00 32 30 31 36 31 32 32 32 41 20 00 00 00 00
    190: 53 4D 49 32 32 35 38 58 54 50 F3 00 00 6E 00 00
    1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1C0: C9 DE CB 09 00 00 00 00 D1 6F DD 17 00 00 00 00
    1D0: 0A 00 00 00 65 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 97

    -- SMART_READ_THRESHOLD ----------------------------------------------------
    +0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +9 +A +B +C +D +E +F
    000: 01 00 01 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 32
    010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 32 00 00 00 00
    020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 0C 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    030: 00 00 A0 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A1 32
    040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A3 32 00 00 00 00
    050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    060: 00 00 A5 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A6 32
    070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A7 32 00 00 00 00
    080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 A8 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    090: 00 00 A9 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 AF 32
    0A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B0 32 00 00 00 00
    0B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    0C0: 00 00 B2 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B5 32
    0D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B6 32 00 00 00 00
    0E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    0F0: 00 00 C2 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C3 32
    100: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C4 32 00 00 00 00
    110: 00 00 00 00 00 00 C5 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    120: 00 00 C6 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C7 32
    130: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 E8 32 00 00 00 00
    140: 00 00 00 00 00 00 F1 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    150: 00 00 F2 32 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F5 32
    160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    170: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    180: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    190: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1B0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1C0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1D0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1E0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    1F0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 F5

    given as good
    most recent driver updates listed as September 2019
    1909 version - July 2019 build 18363.592
    All drivers checked - up to date.

    So 'pass' with Intel SSD toolbox and crystal disk 8 and driver check, hence issue must be post-update Microsoft issue. In Conan-Doyle terms of Sherlock Holmes - "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? "
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  9. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #9

    Interest that Crystal Disk is given all clear.

    updates restart goes to SSD screen warning-image.png

    Above is a snapshot of an old SSD I use. You will notice no reallocated sectors, no uncorrectable sector counts and comperable "Host Writes"

    You have several categories reporting errors, one...

    updates restart goes to SSD screen warning-image.png

    Might also look at Ultra DMA CRC Error Rate as to causes and solutions.

    I acknowledge that this would seem strange to only happen on restarts. If you shut off Fast Startup my bet is it would show there.

    In any event I would ensure data is backed up.

    Any chance this drive is still under warranty?

    Any chance you could increase airflow around drive?
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  10. Posts : 39
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    Thread Starter
       #10

    fixed maybe


    Repair Corrupted SSD/HDD without Losing Data – EaseUS
    Run CHKDSK to Fix File System Error

    Press "Win + R" to open the "Run" dialog.
    Type: cmd and hit Enter to open "Command Prompt".
    Click "Run as administrator" and log in as Administrator.
    Type: chkdsk C: /f /r /x in Command Prompt and hit Enter.

    seems to have worked on restart and rescan with crystal disk
    Cannot avoid temp of fan though
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