Windows 10 Licences

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  1. Posts : 248
    Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (standalone licence)
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    Windows 10 Licences


    Does anyone know if the versions of Windows 10 on offer here are like the old 'retail' licences that could be moved to another machine or are they tied to one machine once installed on that machine.

    Typically the site does not make this clear, as far as I can see, and trying to use the useless chat feature does nnot connect to a real person.
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  2. Posts : 14,674
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
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    OEM/Brands/System Builder/Renewe d/Refurbished licenses are supposed to be stuck with the machine they come on but the Retail version can be moved to a replacement machine but not both at the same time. It's always been spelled out in the EULA/End User License Agreement in past versions, usually seen during install. Some pages about it:
    windows 10 eula at DuckDuckGo
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  3. Posts : 248
    Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (standalone licence)
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    Berton said:
    OEM/Brands/System Builder/Renewe d/Refurbished licenses are supposed to be stuck with the machine they come on but the Retail version can be moved to a replacement machine but not both at the same time. It's always been spelled out in the EULA/End User License Agreement in past versions, usually seen during install.
    Thanks for that but you have just told me what I know as I think was implied in the way I posed the question. The EULA on install is not much use for checking out before buying.
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  4. Posts : 3,453
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    kevvyb said:
    Does anyone know if the versions of Windows 10 on offer here are like the old 'retail' licences that could be moved to another machine or are they tied to one machine once installed on that machine.

    Typically the site does not make this clear, as far as I can see, and trying to use the useless chat feature does nnot connect to a real person.
    The USB-based purchases from MS are FPP (Retail).
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  5. Posts : 14,674
    Win10 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro and Home, Win7, Linux Mint
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    kevvyb said:
    Thanks for that but you have just told me what I know as I think was implied in the I posed the question. The EULA on install is not much use for checking out before buying.
    There was a page on the link I posted about how to find the EULA on a computer, should also be able to find it on the 'net. It really doesn't change much between purchases especially for the same editions such as Home/Core, Professional, etc. Different countries will have changes based on their laws.
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  6. Posts : 248
    Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (standalone licence)
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    Berton said:
    There was a page on the link I posted about how to find the EULA on a computer, should also be able to find it on the 'net. It really doesn't change much between purchases especially for the same editions such as Home/Core, Professional, etc. Different countries will have changes based on their laws.

    Apologies. For some reson didn't notice the link initially. But it does clarify. Thank you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Superfly said:
    The USB-based purchases from MS are FPP (Retail).
    Thanks
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  7. Posts : 17,092
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 22H2 Build 19045.4894
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    And their site does offer
    Satisfaction guaranteed
    Return within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.
    LEARN MORE

    so you can install, check the Microsoft Software License Terms at C:\Windows\System32\en-GB\Licenses\OEM\Core\license.rtf [tailor the path for your region] and send it back if it is not what you need.
    - I think the Microsoft Software License Terms are also shown in an annoyingly small dialog box during installation.

    But I think you will be alright because the standard Microsoft Software License Terms [see attachment from my own computer] 20180600 license.docx explains the situation as being one of two cases -
    1 preinstalled
    2 stand-alone - and this has the right to transfer to other devices

    Windows 10 Licences-transfer-rights.png
    {these conditions have been in force for at least five years - I worked through comparing Retail & OEM licence terms in 2015 and these illustrated paras were the same in both}


    So we are still using old terms such as Retail but we should now be using the terms Pre-installed or Stand-alone. Once you translate your question into these modern terms you will find that it answers itself.

    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 20 Jan 2020 at 11:42.
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  8. Posts : 248
    Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (standalone licence)
    Thread Starter
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    Try3 said:
    And their site does offer
    Satisfaction guaranteed
    Return within 30 days of purchase for a full refund.
    LEARN MORE

    so you can install, check the Microsoft Software License Terms at C:\Windows\System32\en-GB\Licenses\OEM\Core\license.rtf [tailor the path for your region] and send it back if it is not what you need.
    - I think the Microsoft Software License Terms are also shown in an annoyingly small dialog box during installation.

    But I think you will be alright because the standard Microsoft Software License Terms [see attachment from my own computer] 20180600 license.docx explains the situation as being one of two cases -
    1 preinstalled
    2 stand-alone - and this has the right to transfer to other devices

    Windows 10 Licences-transfer-rights.png
    {these conditions have been in force for at least five years - I worked through comparing Retail & OEM licence terms in 2015 and these illustrated paras were the same in both}


    So we are still using old terms such as Retail but we should now be using the terms Pre-installed or Stand-alone. Once you translate your question into these modern terms you will find that it answers itself.

    Denis
    Thanks. Much better terms to use as you say. JUst haven't bought for a while and things have moved on.
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  9. Posts : 248
    Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (standalone licence)
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    Thanks all and Denis for that last explanation. Clearly I haven't been payign attention.
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    In many places, software cannot be tied to a specific piece of hardware. That is the case in the entire EU and also many other places.

    It should be obvious why that is.

    The stand alone can be had very cheaply so it is unlikely to arise for a home user of win10
    Computeractive Software Store - Windows 10 Professional - 80% off RRP
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