The Strange Case of the Missing Pause Feature Update Setting


  1. Posts : 303
    Windows 10 (2), Win 8.1 (1), Win 7 (1)
       #1

    The Strange Case of the Missing Pause Feature Update Setting


    This has been discussed in another thread, but I came across some strange issues with this in trying to get the "Pause Feature Updates" setting to come back after the update to v1903.

    There appears to be three different methods (if you have Win10 Pro) of setting this pause value.

    1. If the setting appears in the "Settings" > "Update and Security" > "Advanced options" section.
    2. Group Policy Editor in "Computer Configuration" > "Administrative Templates" > "Windows Components" > "Windows Update" > "Windows Update for Business" > "Select when preview builds and feature updates are received".
    3. Through a direct Registry fix.


    • Method #1 is the simplest if it is available.
    • Method #2 is fairly easy, but you need to make sure what options you choose, especially the "Readiness Level" (you want "Semi-Annual Channel").
    • Method #3 can be used if you get the proper .reg code.


    I was working with two Win10 Pro computers, both with the latest v1903 installed. The first one did display the additional "Pause Feature Updates" setting in the "Update and Security" "Advanced options" section, the other did not.
    • So I got into GPEdit on both systems to change the appropriate values there to make sure everything was the same. I set the delay value to "zero" in both. I then rebooted.
    • I then looked at what was in the Registry at this key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings]
    • In both cases, the value for "DeferFeatureUpdatesPeriodInDays" was still the old values I had set prior to the v1903 update, in one case 60 days and the other 90 days.


    So what can I believe? The GPEdit and "Update and Security" "Advanced options" "Pause Feature Updates" says zero while the Registry says something else.

    JohnD
      My Computer


  2. Posts : 25,034
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #2

    johnpd said:
    I then looked at what was in the Registry at this key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX\Settings]
    In both cases, the value for "DeferFeatureUpdatesPeriodInDays" was still the old values I had set prior to the v1903 update, in one case 60 days and the other 90 days.

    And therein lies you problem.

    If those values are non-zero, the options disappear from Settings. Set them to zero in Regedit and check for updates and they return. Set a defer period in Settings and they disappear after the next check for updates. They still seem to do their job of deferring updates - you just can't see or change them in Settings

    It's entirely repeatable and this bug has been there since 1903 was released. MS haven't even acknowledged this bug exists, despite several reports in the Feedback hub. Seems not enough people have noticed and upvoted the reports for MS to bother taking any action.


    Bree said:
    30 May 2019 at 15:03
    Confirmed, tested in Windows 10 Pro (x86) build 18362.116.

    If you set a non-zero number of days to defer features updates or quality updates then they disappear from the Advanced options.
    Known and Resolved issues for Windows 10 May 2019 Update version 1903 - post #67


    Oh, and don't hold out any hopes for 1909, I've tested the current build 18363.418 and it still has the same bug.

    Microsoft said:
    We are now getting the Windows 10 November 2019 Update (19H2) ready for release. We believe that Build 18363.418 is the final build
    Getting the Windows 10 November 2019 Update Ready for Release
    ,
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  3. Posts : 303
    Windows 10 (2), Win 8.1 (1), Win 7 (1)
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks Bree. I think what I had missed before was running the check for updates. The second system now has the feature update pause. However changing the value is disabled. Do I need to undo the GPEdit or set it in GPEdit?

    JohnD

    JohnD
      My Computer


  4. Posts : 25,034
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #4

    johnpd said:
    Thanks Bree. I think what I had missed before was running the check for updates. The second system now has the feature update pause. However changing the value is disabled. Do I need to undo the GPEdit or set it in GPEdit?
    If the defer setting are greyed out, then you need to look in GPEdit fo a configured policy that has disabled this. Filter for 'Configured: Yes' should help find the culprit.

    I have never used GPEdit. The bug can be caused or cured entirely with regedit by changing those '....UpdatesPeriodInDays' values. It then takes a check for updates, manual or automatic, for the defer settings to be seen (or not) in Settings.
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  5. Posts : 303
    Windows 10 (2), Win 8.1 (1), Win 7 (1)
    Thread Starter
       #5

    This is really wild. I finally "unconfigured" the setup in GPEdit. Any change you make must be followed up by the check for updates, else any change you make does not appear. Now control is back in Update and Security Advanced Options.

    JohnD
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 25,034
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #6

    johnpd said:
    Any change you make must be followed up by the check for updates, else any change you make does not appear....
    Yes, that has always been the way for any of the 'Update & Security > Windows update' pages. They only reflect the current state of affairs after a check for updates (manual or automatic). Here's an old example from the Fall Creators Update when I first discovered this.

    Bree said:
    Note that checking for updates also seems to check if that message should be displayed. It won't disappear until you make the check.
    remove msg "some settings are managed by Org" in Windows Update
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  7. Posts : 25,034
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    Bree said:
    ... this bug has been there since 1903 was released. MS haven't even acknowledged this bug exists, despite several reports in the Feedback hub. Seems not enough people have noticed and upvoted the reports for MS to bother taking any action.
    Known and Resolved issues for Windows 10 May 2019 Update version 1903 - post #67
    This 'bug' appears to have (finally) been fixed in Cumulative Update KB4522355 Windows 10 v1903 build 18362.449 - Oct. 24
    (although it is still not officially acknowledged by MS as a known issue or listed as a fix).

    The Strange Case of the Missing Pause Feature Update Setting-1903-defer-updates-fixed-18362-449.png
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  8. NMI
    Posts : 970
    Windows 10 Pro, Version 20H2
       #8

    Bree said:
    This 'bug' appears to have (finally) been fixed in Cumulative Update KB4522355 Windows 10 v1903 build 18362.449 - Oct. 24
    (although it is still not officially acknowledged by MS as a known issue or listed as a fix).
    Finally! After only six months!

    Thanks for confirming sanity has been restored.

    I tweeted @MicrosoftHelps about this two weeks ago (after they had asked for support topic suggestions) and I believe that MAY have had something to do with it getting fixed.

    But if so it's a sad indictment of the Feedback Hub; where at least six reports of this behavior had been filed many months ago; they received scant attention, if any whatsoever.
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 7,116
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
       #9

    This bug was still present 3 days ago when I updated some PCs to v1809. I'm pleased the bug is fixed since I like to defer feature updates for a few months. The bug is very obvious and should have been spotted before release of v1903.
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