Windows 10 Update behaviour

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  1. Posts : 164
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
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       #11

    As Bree said my System Protection is "on" so RPs will be being created but that does not account for the length of time taken (it can be an hour) before installation begins. I have checked in Task Manager / Services and I see that "TrustedInstaller" process is "Stopped". Does this mean it is permanently stopped or does it kick-in when needed such as installing updates or new programs?

    Whatever the answer is, it is clear that Windows 10 behaves very differently to previous Windows versions and I was just wondering if anyone knew what was happening in the background. I know Windows 10 is a very complicated OS so an easy answer is probably impossible but thanks for all your answers.
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 24,061
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #12

    Could it be related to delta updates, and some scan or verification procedure related to that?
    Well, I now discover that from Feb 2019, delta updates are no more, replaced by 'express updates'...
    However, having read a couple of articles I'm wondering if express updates are only available for organisations, requiring a particular protocol.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...dates-in-2019/
    Microsoft Ending Windows 10 'Delta Updates' Next Year -- Redmondmag.com
    Windows 10 updates: Expect slimmed-down, full-quality versions, says Microsoft | ZDNet
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  3. Posts : 164
    Windows 10 Home 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #13

    NMI - I am comparing previous Windows 7 and 8.1 update behaviour to that of Windows 10 and the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) never took long so I don't think that is the culprit unless Windows 10 MSRT takes 1 hour instead of 2 minutes as it did with W7 and W8.1.
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  4. Posts : 1,113
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #14

    On creating a restore point for Cumulative Updates, I've seen mixed results on that on the computers that have been brought in to me: sometimes that is the case which I know is supposed to be the case, sometimes it isn't.
    --- System Protection is turned on and restore points prior to the cumulative update are in the list.
    --- winver shows the correct updated version
    --- Update history shows the date of the successful install.
    I don't know why there are differences but that's been my experience.

    For next months cumulative update, I'm going to have my System Protection turned on for my laptop computer that's my main computer and see how that goes out of curiosity.

    I just checked my older Dell that has System Protection turned on and a restore point for the Cumulative Update wasn't created.
    --- I don't know if this is a factor but I run Free up space now as part of my monthly maintenance regimen before the 2nd Tue of the month and deleting all system restore points is one of the choices I check.
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  5. Posts : 1,113
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #15

    wiganken said:
    NMI - I am comparing previous Windows 7 and 8.1 update behaviour to that of Windows 10 and the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) never took long so I don't think that is the culprit unless Windows 10 MSRT takes 1 hour instead of 2 minutes as it did with W7 and W8.1.
    I just ran the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT) quick scan manually & it took 1 minute 25 seconds.
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  6. Posts : 1,113
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       #16

    Bree said:
    If System Protection is turned on then a Cumulative Update will always automatically create a restore point before installing.
    In my post #14, I mentioned
    “On creating a restore point for Cumulative Updates, I've seen mixed results on that on the computers that have been brought in to me: sometimes that is the case which I know is supposed to be the case, sometimes it isn't.”
    Also
    “For next months cumulative update, I'm going to have my System Protection turned on for my laptop computer that's my main computer and see how that goes out of curiosity.”

    I followed through on that yesterday Friday May3 on all 3 of my Win10’s computers as they updated to May 3, 2019—KB4495667 (OS Build 17763.475) as an out-of-band release as opposed to one of the 3 Microsoft’s “B”, “C”, “D” releases.
    Windows 10 update servicing cadence - Windows 10 Forums

    My bottom line is
    My apologies to you Bree as you are absolutely correct: “If System Protection is turned on then a Cumulative Update will always automatically create a restore point before installing.”
    --- For my part, I was too quick to mention “I've seen mixed results” etc w/o taking the time to put my past experience in proper prospective.
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  7. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 15,273
    10 Home x64 (1909) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #17

    MeAndMyComputer said:
    My apologies to you Bree...
    None needed. As a general principle you should always test the claims of some random stranger on the Internet. Well done for taking the time to confirm it for yourself.
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