Windows 10 update settings and 1809 update size

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  1. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Windows 10 update settings and 1809 update size


    My Windows 10 'Choose when updates are installed' settings are:

    Semi-Annual Channel
    Feature Update Deferred: 365 days

    My version is Windows 10 Pro 1803 OS Build No. 17134.648

    Do I really need to upgrade to 1809 or will it automatically come through with my settings? I looked online and the supposed update size is 3.7GB (is this correct?) which is too much now as it will chew up the rest of my monthly allowance. Do my current settings delay this?

    Many Thanks.
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  2. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, a few points:
    1. 1903 - the next build- will be out soon. You could skip 1809.
    2. For any build, best wait until at least the first major update is released
    3. The 365 days deferral is defined thus (I think):
    The standard Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted) option means you’ll get updates when they’re being provided to consumer PCs. If you switch to the Semi-Annual Channel, you’ll only get updates after they’ve been more thoroughly tested and Microsoft feels they’re ready for Enterprise deployment. This often happens about four months after the update is released to consumers.

    So, if you switch to the Semi-Annual Channel and defer feature updates for 365 days, you’ll receive updates a year after they appear in the Semi-Annual channel. In other words, it will take about 16 months for an update to reach your PC after it first rolls out to consumer PCs.
    And in particular for 1803:
    You can change this setting to Semi-Annual Channel (the new name for what was previously known as Current Branch for Business, as shown here. That defers feature updates until Microsoft declares them "ready for business deployment." For version 1803, that declaration happened uncharacteristically quickly, a mere two months after the initial release.
    https://www.howtogeek.com/286658/how...in-windows-10/

    4. Therefore you would receive both the initial feature upgrade, and the subsequent update, which could be almost as large.
    5. I'm surprised that you have a significant allowance limit in the UK
    6. You could alleviate the download size problem by downloading the appropriate iso on a different PC/internet connection, then using it on yours.
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  3. Posts : 41,459
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #3

    Microsoft forced Windows updates/uprades is changing with the next build:

    https://www.howtogeek.com/410183/mic...orced-updates/
    Microsoft is giving Windows 10 users more control over updates
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  4. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    If my understanding is correct then both Pro and Home users will get a message like in the screenshot in those articles giving us an option to install a new Windows 10 feature update (build) when we wish but this must happen before the end of service date of our build.

    I guess this also means that Home users will now also be able to pause all updates for 35 days.
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  5. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    But only when the April 2019 build has been installed of course...

    I guess this also means that Home users will now also be able to pause all updates for 35 days.
    That's what the article I found says...


    • Starting with the May 2019 Update (previously called the April 2019 Update), you will see a notification that the update is available when Microsoft thinks it’s ready for your PC. However, it’s your choice when—and whether—to install it. Windows 10 won’t just start downloading and installing it without your say-so. You’ll have to click “Download and install now.”
    • When you click “Check for Updates” in Windows 10, you can choose whether you want to install the resulting updates or pause updates for up to 35 days. This pause feature is new to Windows 10 Home, and was previously only available in Windows 10 Professional. Previously, Windows automatically installed updates right after checking. And yes, this applies to smaller security, stability, and driver updates, too. (You can only pause seven days at a time, but you can pause up to five times in a row.)
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  6. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #6

    - - - Updated - - -

    I deferred the feature update by 365 days which is probably why the operating system is still on 1803 for the Pro versions but another Home version is on 1809 (where I could not do this).

    But I actually don't know when I made this setting as I now want to count the start date of when I made this setting + 365 days. Is there any way I can find this out within the operating system?

    I hope it will be possible to completely skip 1809 in the Pro versions and go straight to 1903 even though my branch readiness level is Semi-Annual Channel and not Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted).
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  7. Posts : 31,622
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    meridius said:
    -I deferred the feature update by 365 days ... But I actually don't know when I made this setting as I now want to count the start date of when I made this setting + 365 days.


    ...my branch readiness level is Semi-Annual Channel and not Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted)

    The 365 days doesn't start counting from when you set the deferral. As you are not on the (Targeted) channel it starts counting from the day 1809 is declared as 'ready for broad deployment' (or 'Current Branch for Business' as it used to be called). That happened at the end of March. If you were on the Semi-Annual (Targeted) Channel then the count started from the day 1809 was released on November 13, 2018.


    Windows 10 version 1809 designated for broad deployment - Windows 10 Forums
    Last edited by Bree; 08 Apr 2019 at 09:47. Reason: 1809 release date added.
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  8. Posts : 147
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #8

    OK Thanks. That makes perfect sense.

    If Microsoft are changing the update process I guess I will get the notification to update to 1903 next month even if I have deferred feature updates for 365 days...

    If I have three computers on Windows 10 (2 Pro & 1 Home) do you recommend downloading 1903 as an update (iso?) from Microsoft, not sure from where..., or does it create problems if I do not do this through Windows Update?

    An additional question. Security wise is there a big difference between builds i.e. should we be updating to the latest builds asap?
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  9. Posts : 42,953
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #9

    MS media creation tool will create an iso or boot disk. Just search for it - or read the tutorial about creating a boot disk to install Windows. Doing that
    - saves redownloading it
    - makes it easy to reattempt the upgrade should it fail.

    Using an iso, you also have the usual option to receive updates or not as part of the procedure.

    No notification if you have the feature update deferred of course - and you might expect any such to be over a period of 2-3 months after initial release.
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  10. Posts : 1,938
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #10

    note that the latest media creation tool (for win10 v1809) will create an ISO image containing build 17763.379 (aka 1809 V2 or with KB4489899 CU integrated) as this build was made right after MS declared the 1809 version as business ready near the end of March 2019
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