FIX for: KB4023057 Fails - Error 0x80070643 (Windows 10 v1803)

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  1. Posts : 14
    Windows 10 - 1803 (10.0.17134.523)
       4 Weeks Ago #51

    cooloutac said: View Post
    what? multiple updates with the same version number? If thats true MS is doing it wrong. wow. Is windows defender just broken on all of our systems. Or maybe they keep reinstalling the same definitions for security purposes routinely in case tampered with? Or is MS just too lazy to make new version numbers?
    consider how many times the defender definitions are updated each day and ask if it's either to have a new KB for every definition update or just easier to have the update say "Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Definition whatever definition number it is)".

    So the idea of KB4023057 being used for November/December/January updates isn't some sort of unprecedented or concerning thing here.
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  2.    4 Weeks Ago #52

    Intrepid1 said: View Post
    Update: Some people are receiving the older update (2018-11) again and it is failing again - however if the older update (2018-11) is uninstalled as described in Post #1, it should resolve the issue. The new update is 2019-01.

    Just hit me two days ago. First post solved it, then KB4483234 came through. Hung on shutdown during reboot.
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  3.    4 Weeks Ago #53

    lirene said: View Post
    consider how many times the defender definitions are updated each day and ask if it's either to have a new KB for every definition update or just easier to have the update say "Definition Update for Windows Defender Antivirus - KB2267602 (Definition whatever definition number it is)".

    So the idea of KB4023057 being used for November/December/January updates isn't some sort of unprecedented or concerning thing here.
    Well the kb 4023057 must be a superceding update. Regarding the defender updates, if they are new definitions with the same version numbers thats a joke and MS should be ashamed of themselves.
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       4 Weeks Ago #54

    cooloutac said: View Post
    Well the kb 4023057 must be a superceding update. Regarding the defender updates, if they are new definitions with the same version numbers thats a joke and MS should be ashamed of themselves.
    It has been that way for years. It is not a joke. Defender definitions are not code changes or fixes. They are a table of security elements. Yesterday's Defender updates as example.

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  5.    4 Weeks Ago #55

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    It has been that way for years. It is not a joke. Defender definitions are not code changes or fixes. They are a table of security elements. Yesterday's Defender updates as example.

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    Ok my mistake. I see. SO the KB version number is the version of the program itself. But the definitions do indeed have new version numbers. TY.
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       4 Weeks Ago #56

    cooloutac said: View Post
    Ok my mistake. I see. SO the KB version number is the version of the program itself. But the definitions do indeed have new version numbers. TY.
    KB stands for Knowledge Base. A repository of all MS fixes, updates, documentation, help, etc. etc. (Among other places).

    If you use Power Shell (admin or non-admin) and run this command:

    Get-MpComputerStatus

    You will get a detailed list of all there is to know about Defender and all it's innards. The definitions are processed by the Anti-Malware Engine, which does change (thru Windows Update) and gets a new version number. This is how it all sits as of right now, this morning. Note the definitions number matches what is shown in Reliability History. Engine is separate from definitions.

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  7.    4 Weeks Ago #57

    🡆 Uninstall KB4023057 from "Programs and Features" or "Apps & Features" (remember it's NOT in "Installed Updates"). Reboot. The newer update KB4023057 will now install successfully from Windows Update.

    Does not work for me.

    3 PC's. All have beginning January, the 2018-12 Update KB4023057 successfully installed.
    Repeatedly at present: the 2018-11 (sic) Update KB4023057 failed to install.
    The successfully installed Update does not show itself in Programmes and Features and therefore cannot be uninstalled.
    I had to perform a System Recovery with a date early in January to solve the problem for 2 PC's.
    For the 3rd PC I had to image the C:\\ with an old Macrium image.
    Thanks MS
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  8.    4 Weeks Ago #58

    You also could have just waited for Microsoft to fix it. There really was no urgency.
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  9.    4 Weeks Ago #59

    PiKo said: View Post
    Uninstall KB4023057 from "Programs and Features" or "Apps & Features" (remember it's NOT in "Installed Updates"). Reboot. The newer update KB4023057 will now install successfully from Windows Update.
    Does not work for me. ... Update KB4023057 failed to install. The successfully installed Update does not show itself in Programs and Features and therefore cannot be uninstalled.


    I looked at a computer with this update failed 3 times and not in Progs & Features, like yours. When Troubleshoot WU failed, I reset WU components ( Reset Windows Update in Windows 10 ), deleted Software Distribution folder contents, reboot and hit Settings/Update & Security/Check for updates and all installed incl last CumUpdate which also couldn't install before.
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  10.    3 Weeks Ago #60

    mrgeek said: View Post

    I looked at a computer with this update failed 3 times and not in Progs & Features, like yours. When Troubleshoot WU failed, I reset WU components ( Reset Windows Update in Windows 10 ), deleted Software Distribution folder contents, reboot and hit Settings/Update & Security/Check for updates and all installed incl last CumUpdate which also couldn't install before.
    Resetting Windows Update and deleting Software Distribution Folder did not work for me. After updating still this update failed and the error message showed up..
    This demonstrates how important it is to have a (Macrium) System Image available.
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