1809 shambles.


  1. Posts : 64
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    1809 shambles.


    Hi, 2 days ago I updated to 1809 which appeared to be fine. However booting up froze at the initial Blue Badge and had to be forced to continue and finish. This resulted in a 'Roll-back' and waiting hopefully for a fully working update.

    Yesterday my neighbour also Installed 1809 only to find he couldn't get past the sign-in screen and numerous attempts, including re-setting password 3 times failed to give access. I checked his sign-in details and password on my PC and gained access to his account without any problem - but the same password (very carefully checked) was not accepted. After many wasted hours of trying to get help from a reluctant Microsoft we eventually managed, unaided, to get access only to find ALL data was missing. (No Documents/No Pictures). Once again this finished up with a 'Roll-back' and we both now await with baited breath for a successful version of 1809.
    I don't expect any solutions being provided to the above; I posted this to display that 1809 is still very flawed.
    Regards.
    Yorky.
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  2. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, 2 days ago I updated to 1809 which appeared to be fine. However booting up froze at the initial Blue Badge and had to be forced to continue and finish. This resulted in a 'Roll-back' and waiting hopefully for a fully working update.
    Hi, I'm guessing you mean the upgrade didn't complete, and your PC automatically reverted to the previous build. Another reading could be that you chose to 'Go back to the previous build'.

    The precise error message is always somewhat helpful in all of these cases.
    There are also extensive log files created, but these may not be indicative or helpful unfortunately.

    ====================================
    FWIW here's my experience of upgrading: I had to try about 3 times.

    I was on build 1709, feature updates (upgrades) deferred for 365 days- as you can with Pro. Windows Update was working normally.

    I uninstalled one program I knew would conflict with the upgrade, disabled my security programs, and attempted the upgrade by Windows Update. It appeared to go smoothly, no error messages, some setup screens. However, after the final restart, I found I was back with build 1709.

    I tried again with a manual upgrade- downloaded the iso, selected no updates during the upgrade. Same thing.

    A little research suggested the next step- nothing specially logical, just reasonable. Remember W Updates was working. I
    a. Ran the Windows update troubleshooter a couple of times.
    b. Followed this tutorial:
    Reset Windows Update in Windows 10 | Tutorials
    c. Disabled my security programs
    d. Reattempted the manual upgrade.

    This time it worked.

    Note that if you attempt the upgrade manually, and download an iso, you bypass the protection MS has put in place to try to stop 1809 being delivered to PCs where there are known problems.

    Further, 1809 seems to be being very slowly rolled out by Windows Update.

    Did you attempt the upgrade manually?
    Last edited by dalchina; 18 Dec 2018 at 02:31.
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  3. Posts : 7,871
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit
       #3

    Your best best is to defer feature updates for say 3 months to give time for MS to iron out the bugs then enable an update via Windows Update. I always defer these bug prone updates for 6 months.
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  4. Posts : 64
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Hi and thank you for the replies. First 'dalchina'. The installation did complete fully and I was able to use 1809; it was only after closing down and attempting boot-up the next day that the error occurred. I tried 3 times with the same result which decided me to activate 'roll-back'.
    Secondly 'Steve C'. I have decided to take your advice and delay update for a while. There is little in 1809 of use to me an octogenarian with no smart phone/tablets or other devices for me to link with.
    Regards.
    Yorky
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #5

    Hi, I can understand you wanting to stay on 1803.

    We still don't know if this was a manual upgrade (you chose to do it by downloading an iso) or via Windows Update.
    If the latter, the upgrade to 1809 will happen again unless you take precautions.

    You have Pro, so you can use the Group Policy Editor to defer feature updates (upgrades) for up to 365 days.
    You can also set updates to Notify, which gives more control.

    Perhaps you've already done this...

    Note: upgrading and rolling back are major changes- and you can begin to see the risks. Potentially at any point your PC could become unbootable, your disk(s) fail - they can...

    So I hope you use disk imaging routinely - e.g. Macrium Reflect (free) + image files on a large external disk- to protect your PC, your time, your data.. disk imaging, used appropriately, allows you to recover relatively quickly even if you have to replace your system disk (or any other disk imaged).
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  6. Posts : 64
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Hi 'dalchina' and thank you for your reply and advice. It was via Windows update.
    I have taken due notice of the precautions you have detailed and I have already activated 'Paused Updates'. However I will perhaps follow the further instructions you have provided. I also do regular back ups having a second HD for storage installed and also take that further with an external SSD which is only connected as required.
    Thank you & regards.
    Yorky.
      My Computer


  7. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #7

    1809 shambles.-1.jpg

    1809 shambles.-2.jpg
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  8. Posts : 64
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Thank you dalchina, i wasn't aware of this method and the graphics will certainly assist me to set the delay period I require.
    Have a nice Christmas.
    Yorky.
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 42,734
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #9

    This is (to me) the biggest advantage of Pro. It's documented in a tutorial (of course- Brink writes 100s!) but you'd have to know to go looking for it.

    I guess you're aware of Active Hours to limit restarts (in Settings).

    Happy Christmas!
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