Novice question on cumulative updates

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  1. Posts : 98
    win 10
       #1

    Novice question on cumulative updates


    Greetings.

    Since the release of windows 10 version 1803, 8 cumulative updates have been released. In order to bring newly installed os up to date, is it necessary to apply all 8 of them? Or would the latest 191 update be sufficient?

    Thank you very much in advance for putting up with such novice questions.

    Best regards,
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  2. Posts : 1,773
    Windows 10 Home
       #2

    No, you only need the last cumulative update, unlike the days of XP where you had to install them in sequence and restart after most of them before going on to next. MUCH easier procedure.
    PS; there is a .228 update issued since .191. Here's a link to the constantly updated MS page. You can manually fetch the update package clicking the highest item on the list on L. Read notes at bottom for download link (How to get this Update) and whether it's dependent on any small patch updates issued before. Brink will also give you links in the News section, if you check that every so often.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4099479
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  3. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #3

    mrgeek said:
    No, you only need the last cumulative update, unlike the days of XP where you had to install them in sequence and restart after most of them before going on to next. MUCH easier procedure.
    In fact, so much easier that Windows 7 and 8.1 have now adopted the same monthly update format.
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  4. Posts : 1,773
    Windows 10 Home
       #4

    Thanks, Bree, I wasn't certain how it worked in 7 because I went straight from XP to 8.1 (for a month before 10 upgrade). But you are SO correct about how much easier 10 has made updating. I remember going to Staples with my XP that was infected with ransomware and they wanted $59 to reinstall from my OEM DVD. I thought briefly, why would I pay someone to do what I could do at home but then realized they were going to install 4 yrs of updates and Service Packs. So I said go ahead and for 3 days, I saw my laptop on the bench looking into their window. It was finally done but Lord knows how many hrs and restarts THAT all took. Well worth the $ vs my time ! ��
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  5. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #5

    mrgeek said:
    Thanks, Bree, I wasn't certain how it worked in 7...

    ...why would I pay someone to do what I could do at home but then realized they were going to install 4 yrs of updates and Service Packs.
    Tell me about it! A year before I got the free upgrade to W10 I factory reset my W7 laptop. The factory reset took long enough, but then I lost count of the number of updates and restart I had to do. Took another day's work to get it up to date.

    That's all changed now. In April 2016 MS switched to the monthly rollup format that they first used in W10. I got another W7 laptop recently and factory reset that too. So much easier (once I'd installed SP1, it was that old). One Convenience rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 followed by the latest monthly rollup and it was done.
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  6. Posts : 98
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks to all for a clear and definitive reply. Upgraded to 228 with no issues.

    Have a related question:
    How to set up windows update to allow pick and choose of what to download and install, like in windows 7?

    Many thanks and best regards,
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  7. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    Even Windows 7 now has a single 'monthly rollup' update (same idea as a W10 cumulative update) instead of each patch as an individual one, so the choice in W7 is 'all or nothing' these days.

    Pro has more control than Home, but even then you are limited it what you can do. You can set Pro to notify you that updates are available, but not download until you tell it to. For more on this see...

    Enable or Disable Windows Update Automatic Updates in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    It is possible in Home and Pro to turn off driver updates. This used to be available in Settings, but has been removed. In Pro you can still set a Group Policy, but in both Home and Pro you can set this in the registry.

    Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    For ultimate control you'd have to turn to third-party tools, such as Windows Update Mini Tool. More on that in this thread.

    Stop Windows 10 Updates Properly and Completely Solved - Windows 10 Forums
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  8. Posts : 98
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Thanks for the kind reply Bree.
    When click the check for new updates button, download and installation would begin immediately. How to prevent that from happening and let me view and choose the updates to be installed?
    Many thanks and best regards,
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  9. Posts : 31,630
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #9

    Set a Metered Connection and most updates will not download until you permit them by clicking a 'Download' button. A very few types are deemed too important to wait, these include the Flash updates and the Anti-malware Platform updates (but not the definitions updates).

    Set Ethernet Connection as Metered or Unmetered in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
    Set Wireless Network as Metered or Non-Metered in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    Bree said:
    ...starting with 1703 there was a subtle change in the wording regarding metered connections. It now says...


    Observation has shown that those updates deemed too urgent to wait for an unmetered connection include the Flash updates, but do not include the cumulative updates, as demonstrated in this screenshot. Note that the CU is awaiting you clicking Download, while the Flash update has already downloaded.



    Subsequently I've only seen one other type of update download over a metered connection, updates for the Defender Antimalware Platform. That's an update for the Defender engine and UI itself, definitions updates do not download automatically on a metered connection.
    Metered Connection not preventing Windows from updating - Page 2 - Windows 10 Forums
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  10. Posts : 98
    win 10
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Thanks for the kind reply, Bree.

    1. Any need to set limit?
    2. Would the cumulative updates be removed from download list after being installed manually?

    Many thanks and kind regards,
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