Possible to select specific updates from "Windows Updates" ?

See previous post about problems with Windows Defender Antivirus.

I was able to upgrade to Windows 10 ver 1803 from a virtual ISO image drive however the upgrade took over an hour. I selected to install any updates of which took an additional 45 mins, so the actual upgrade only took approx 15 to 20 mins. I had to sit there and watch for ~45min as the percentage indicator went from zero to one hundred percent.

I do keep a backup drive of my Windows 10 installation plus backups of my critical files so I went ahead and initiated the backup as Macrium could not read or access my external eSata / USB drive.

Macrium error

Unable to read from disk - Error Code 1117 - The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error. Error code 1117 is generated by the Windows operating system and is always caused by I/O (Input / Output) throughput issues with either the disk or the controller that it is attached to

Not certain what's that about as I tried to save an image of my Windows 10 installation on the 1TB hard drive connected via estata, after which tried a usb connection.

Anyway the 1803 update was successful and rectified the Defender Antivirus problems. Before applying the patch I did a quick scan of some forum messages, and remember reading something about the 1803 update being able to fix problems with Antivirus not being able to run.

Haven't tried chkdsk yet I'll perhaps do that overnight as it's a 1TB drive. I'm wondering if I should not do CHKDSK /R at first in case there is corrupted data I don't want chkdsk trying to handle. If I run chkdsk without repair it should report any problems without actually trying to perform repairs to the hard drive.

I think what I would rather do and have done in the past is to backup important files and then if something goes wrong with the drive and/or installation files that a system restore unable to repair then perform a fresh installation and the re-install the important files and needed applications. Fresh installs often get rid of problems. However I currently have Windows 10 for this PC backup on another SSD drive which I could update to this more recent 1803 update deleting the previous backup.


I tried both a eSata cable and a USB cable and was able to access the drive from the File Explorer.

I have several eStata and USB cables. The external storage has it's own power supply and uses a usb cable like the ones used with printers. I have several of both types where some are brand new, unused. I can try another USB and eSata cable. If not the cable then I'm uncertain. The Lenovo Thinkstation has an addtional esata port along with regular sata ports. Esata ports on a motherboard

SATA is a little different from eSATA and eSATAp in that the operating system is suppose to recognize an eSATA port on the motherboard or peripheral and treat eSATA as a removable drive with options to properly eject without loosing any data from read/write operations.

eSATAp can supply power at 5 V and 12 V, however eSATAp I've never seen built into a motherboard. Some motherboards don't have eSATA so if you try to use a standard sata port with an external drive to plug and unplug then you run the risk of loosing or corrupting data on the external hard drive.

My external enclosure is sorta old but does both USB 2.0 and eSATA, perhaps there's some compatibility problem with the enclosure's hardware and Macrium? I'm not certain as I've never had any problems connecting the enclosure.

The only problem I've had is when switching between PC's and Operating systems. Sometime Windows can't access folder and files because of security options are set for more than one OS. Under Windows 10 I sometimes need to claim ownership and run through and change all the security setting for specific files and folders. Which is sorta a pita taking additional time when all your trying to access is a few backed up reference files, manuals, etc. The 1TB drive stores approx. 930GB of file backups I probably need to go through and change all the file and folder security to work better with my main Windows 10 PC as it still has security descriptors for four other laptops and PCs that I don't use that often. I probably also need to purchase at least another 1TB drive to backup the backup drive. If you think about it all this media hds, flash drives, cds, dvds, tape, etc. is temporary and isn't going to be able to permanently store data. I have data that goes back a long time that's impossible or very difficult to replace. So if you want to keep data a long time requires backups of the backups and possibly swapping to new media once in a while. It all potentiall degrades, become damaged, etc., over time. A Cloud would be anther option if it were large enough and free.

[QUOTE=dalchina;1414663]I've never had to do that. Suggests either you are accessing OS protected files or folders, or some very strange history.


The drive goes back quite a few years iirc there are still backed up files from when I was running XP but most are more recent while running Windows Vista and now have files backed up while running Windows 10.

I have a few files stored that goes back to the early 80s when I first starting using a PC back in 81. DOS and Windows hadn't yet been developed. There was something similar and a predecessor to DOS called CPM-86.

I haven't ever used a cloud but it keeps popping up now and then as something included with Windows 10 and MS Office called iirc OneDrive?

OneDrive is Microsoft's service for hosting files in the "cloud", that's available for free to all the owners of a Microsoft account. OneDrive offers users a simple way to store, sync and share all kinds of files, with other people and devices on the Web.Mar 3, 2016 ... haven't yet ever tried to use it. but it seems perhaps something where one could share or refer to files such as on a forum.

dalchina said:

Ok, a long history could explain that. Thanks.

Cloud storage is usually
a. Limited in extent (i.e. you get xGb free, then need to pay for more) so you need to weigh that against the 1-2Tb or whatever you need for disk images if you were considering using Cloud storage.
b. Upload speed- typically minute compared to the 100s of MB/s I have from SSD to disk via USB3.

So using storage via the internet is more for limited backups, storage, and sharing for most people.

c. syncing- particularly promoted by MS- intended to give you a similar working environment as you move from device to device. Particular example: MS Sets.

Yes i think your correct, for most people. However some businesses have started to take cloud computing more seriously, taking cloud computing by storm to show us that we should expand our thinking of just how valuable the cloud can be.

e.g. Netflix, Xerox, Pinterest, Instagram, Etsy, Apple, MediaMath, etc.

I haven't really looked into all the details. I did find a few articles such as

https://www.smartdatacollective.com/...e-moved-cloud/

I think what a cloud can be used for is certain types of files that one needs to access once in a while.

E.g. I have service and user manuals for automobiles and other hardware equipment, some that I purchased in digital pdf format. Some are sorta expensive potentially costing hundreds of dollars in both paper and digital formats.

So I'm thinking instead of only storing on a backup a SATA drive (via usb or estata) to back them up on a cloud. Along with other files I think need to be accessed more frequently. That way the hard drive could just sit there turned off most of the time with less risk of hard drive media become damaged and the cloud would offer easy access without OS security problems.

I use to backup data onto SCSI drives which is still used by some corporations today as their fairly reliable and where some are still competitively fast. I still have a few SCA drives installed in an external drive enclosure that's able to connect to my PC via an Adaptec SCSI Controller. The drives are SCSI SCA and hot swapable meaning you can insert and pull them. However the ones I have are relatively small compared to the new large SATA drives. So I really haven't been using them recently to back up files.

I rarely if ever encrypt any backup files only files stored on my Windows installation drive that has access to the Internet.

Anyway I thought I would first look into Microsoft's OneDrive to see if that's really an option to backup reference files I need to access once once while. I also have many notes and technical information about different vehicles I own or use to own.

Every time I access my backup drive it goes through my mind of past events loosing an entire backup drive to media corruption of some kind.

Years of work potentially can disappear in just a few seconds unless it's been backup-ed on paper and/or some sort of digital media. Or perhaps some of the important data can also be backed up to a cloud as a third option?