Windows 10: What Times WU To Auto Check For Updates?

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       4 Weeks Ago #41

    Bree said: View Post
    The KB4346783 update contains NO security updates. It is a preview of the non-security fixes due to be in the next 'Patch Tuesday' cumulative update. As such, MS seem to have it marked as 'recommended' rather than 'important'. The automatic check for updates would seem to only download important updates, but a manual check gets them all.
    Makes sense. Thank you. As usual Bree is the voice of wisdom, courtesy, and thoughtfulness. I had always "assumed" that the automatic WU check for updates would snag any that were available for my system, I guess that's incorrect. I will continue to back up the system image when a CU is announced just in case WU decides to install it behind my back.
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       4 Weeks Ago #42

    jamis said: View Post
    .. I had always "assumed" that the automatic WU check for updates would snag any that were available for my system...
    As had I, not having seen any definitive guidance from MS. Seems not to be the case though. That MS blog is the first time I've seen anything official that describes how Microsoft handle these updates.

    Bree said:
    To investigate this I have left my test machine running 17134.228 continuously for the past three days...
    The test is well into day 8 now and is still running 17134.228. Defender updates have been downloaded, but not KB4346783. I expect the test to end with the automatic download and install of tomorrow's 'Patch Tuesday' update. If and when it does, that would be good supporting evidence that my explanation is correct.
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  3.    4 Weeks Ago #43

    Bree said: View Post
    The test is well into day 8 now and is still running 17134.228. Defender updates have been downloaded, but not KB4346783.
    I'm in the same situation - I have been waiting quietly for weeks to see what happens. I do like the sound of your theory - we will see!
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       4 Weeks Ago #44

    WU did an automatic check for updates at 6:56PM today and installed KB4456655, KB4457146, KB4457128, and the September version of KB890830. Each was done one time only. It did the restart automatically as I was out mowing the lawn. I'm going to accept Bree's explanation that WU knows what is going on and I will just keep backups current. Interesting enough the system bld. is still at 17134.254. I thought KB4457128 would take it to 17134.285.
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       4 Weeks Ago #45

    jamis said: View Post
    ... Interesting enough the system bld. is still at 17134.254. I thought KB4457128 would take it to 17134.285.
    Check what your Update History shows, I suspect it will say 'pending restart' for KB4457128. If so, restart now and then it will say 17134.285.

    My test machine is yet to check automatically for updates, that should happen some time in the next 24 hours.
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       4 Weeks Ago #46

    Bree said: View Post
    Check what your Update History shows, I suspect it will say 'pending restart' for KB4457128. If so, restart now and then it will say 17134.285.

    My test machine is yet to check automatically for updates, that should happen some time in the next 24 hours.
    Nope. No pending restart indicated. I even did a restart when I saw the updates had taken place and the system was started from a power off status this morning. Still at 17134.254. Twilight Zone.
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       4 Weeks Ago #47

    One of my machines did that. I manually checked for updates again and it found and installed one.

    Just checked history and last one listed (top of list) was KB4457128 but it had a (2) after the KB number. Can't say I seen a bracketed number after KB before.
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       4 Weeks Ago #48

    Caledon Ken said: View Post
    Just checked history and last one listed (top of list) was KB4457128 but it had a (2) after the KB number. Can't say I seen a bracketed number after KB before.
    I have seen the bracketed number following a KB update in W10. IIRC, it was prior to V.1803. I experienced a pair of back to back updates (one supposedly correcting the other) that resulted in one of them having up to 5 installs with none of them being done successfully. I finally discovered that they had corrupted the WU control files and fortunately, I had a system image save prior to the corruption. I highly doubt this instance is anything like my previous experience, and I still have only one instance of KB4457128 being installed so far.
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  9.    4 Weeks Ago #49

    I got KB4457128 offered about 10 minutes ago (I didn't check - I was waiting for weeks to see what happened).

    Looks like the theory of @Bree was correct - it wasn't an important update so was pushed out later in the month.

    It would be interesting to know what constitutes a 'B', 'C', or 'D' release though.
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       4 Weeks Ago #50

    lx07 said: View Post
    It would be interesting to know what constitutes a 'B', 'C', or 'D' release though.
    The "B" release is another name for the second Tuesday ('Patch Tuesday') release. This has the latest security fixes along with non-security patches. I think we all understand this one quite well by now.

    Microsoft say:
    The C and D releases occur the third and fourth weeks of the month, respectively. These preview releases contain only non-security updates, and are intended to provide visibility and testing of the planned non-security fixes targeted for the next months Update Tuesday release.
    Of course, being cumulative B C & D contain all previous updates, but the B release is the only one to have any new security fixes.

    At times referred to as our B release, Update Tuesday (most often referred to as Patch Tuesday) updates are published the second Tuesday of each month. These updates are the primary and most important of all the monthly update events and are the only regular releases that include new security fixes.
    Windows 10 update servicing cadence - Windows 10 Forums
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