Windows 10: More 1803 woes - system loop on restart

  1. Posts : 87
    windows xp, vista, 7, 8.1, 10 multiboot
       18 Jun 2018 #1

    More 1803 woes - system loop on restart

    I downloaded 1803 yesterday; at the completion of the download (option to update). I shut down the PC (normally) with a view to complete the update today. There is virtually nothing on the PC apart from Chrome.

    Today when I boot up all I get is a loop with the date screen, blue screen with rotating balls, and black screen (cursor active) - I left this to run for 45 minutes before forcing a shut down.

    First things first was to run a chkdsk, I am seeing countless entries with deleting extended attribute set due to the presence of a reparse point in file nnnnn.

    I am getting the feeling it would be better to start afresh and rebuild the system as their is no critical data on the system or many apps.

    I think I am in the majority that really hate the update process in Windows 10 - my vote is redesign from scratch - just too many issues too slow, and unnecessary unwanted add-ons.
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  2.    18 Jun 2018 #2

    Hi, I would agree in your case- clean install would be the quickest way. Download the iso, create a bootable medium.
    I'd also check your disk first (you'd need a bootable disk such as Kyhi's from the top of the Software and Apps section - and run HD Tune- or at least do that immediately after installing Windows).

    Download Windows 10 ISO File | Windows 10 Tutorials
    Clean Install Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials

    In the case of this build I would recommend you accept updates when installing.

    If you have already discovered the value of disk imaging, you could be sure of a way back to the previous build. When you get your PC up and running again, the first thing to do is to create a new disk image. (We recommend Macrium Reflect (free) + external storage for image sets).

    Disk imaging lets you restore your PC to a previous working state even if your disk fails and you need to get another, relatively painlessly.

    Too slow? I don't think many find that in general use.
    I only use 2 or 2 apps, and uninstall some I don't want (see the Tutorial section).

    Yes, upgrading to new builds can be difficult and frustrating. I have Pro so choose to defer upgrading for a few months for a couple of reasons.
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  3. Posts : 87
    windows xp, vista, 7, 8.1, 10 multiboot
    Thread Starter
       18 Jun 2018 #3

    Thanks for yr constructive advice.

    I was concerned that it was an HDD issue so yr advice about HD-Tune was good. Both HD-Tune & CrystalDisk report that the drive is 100% clean.

    Further I was able to recover Win 10 1709 after a second chkdsk c:/r - after another 2 hours 1803 is installed.

    The main point of my post actually is give negative feedback re the update process in Windows 10 (not that M$ reads these things). Thumbs down!
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  4.    18 Jun 2018 #4

    Glad you got there, and hope it's problem-free for you - as far as it can be. (see comments on the updates in the News section).

    I think we're all aware of the upgrade issues- I'm staying with 1709 for a good while. Bear in mind we're just users- not MS. The people you need to give that feedback to is MS -e.g. via the Feedback Hub app. And evidently they are struggling with some of the issues as they produced updated to 1803.

    Now you need to consolidate your position- use disk imaging routinely e.g. Macrium Reflect (free).
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