Windows 10: How to prevent 1803 forever?

  1.    1 Week Ago #1

    How to prevent 1803 forever?


    I'm still using an old Inspiron 11z (1110) from circa 2010. Driver support is long gone, and the recent update stops the machine from booting. It refuses to recover, wouldn't roll back to 1709. My only path was to restore a clonezilla image from a year ago which is 1703. It was working fine with 1709.

    How can I stop microsoft from forcibly retiring my laptop?
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  2. Posts : 4,839
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       1 Week Ago #2

    How can I stop microsoft from forcibly retiring my laptop?
    It may sound facetious but literally the only way to prevent it is to disconnect it from the Internet. But then that takes away a lot of the usefulness of the computer whether Desktop or Notebook/Laptop.

    I keep a WinXP runable because it has a combination 5.25"/3.5" Epson floppy drive and a 250MB Iomega Zip drive in it for those of my clients that occasionally run across such disks and want to know what is on them. Win10 will never be offered to that computer but if it does want to I have 3 even older computers that work with Win98/98SE and could do what I may need.
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  3.    1 Week Ago #3

    I used to disable 4 services (Windows Update (wuauserv), Delivery Optimization (dosvc), Update Orchestrator Service (UsoSvc) and Background Intelligent Transfer Service (bits)) and have BGInfo inform me when their disabled state changed. This is when I found recently that Microsoft were just re-enabling them every single day.

    I've now found a small utility that seems to do the trick. I'm hesitant to name it here in case it provokes a backlash from Microsoft that renders it ineffective. So far there's been no re-enabling of Windows Update so I'm pleased.

    There is, unfortunately, a downside... I now have to temporarily disable the utility to quickly update Windows Defender definitions... but the definition updates take just a minute or two and the slight inconvenience is a small price to play to stop 1803.

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    It's a shame... because I believe Microsoft has no idea how much it has shot itself in both feet in terms of consumer trust... or just doesn't care any more.
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  4. Posts : 7,365
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       1 Week Ago #4

    Well, if you'd prefer to avoid 3rd-party tools or registry hacks, there are purely MS-supplied way to do it. In Pro you can switch out of the fast lane 'Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted)' and/or defer Features Updates for up to 365 days.

    Windows Update - Defer Feature and Quality Updates in Windows 10

    In both Home and Pro you can hide the 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1803' just like you can hide any other update. Hiding this one update has the advantage that you will still get all other updates as normal.

    Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10

    That is sufficient in 1709, but as time goes on MS get more persistent. For 1703 or earlier you now have to hide KB4023814 in addition, else you get the Update Assistant installed and running.

    For even earlier versions there will be other updates that need hiding too. To have a chance to spot them before they install, turn on metered connections. Any Windows update that doesn't have 'cumulative' in it's name is suspect. A metered connection allows you to check out their KB article before permitting them to install. KB4056254 is one such 'suspect' update.

    I hide updates to keep my test machine (System Two in my specs below) from trying to update itself whenever I restore one of its earlier system images. For support purposes I can run any version back to the original 1507 10240 release, the last thing I want is for it to try to update to 1803 while I'm using it to investigate an issue in an early version.
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  5. Posts : 2,022
    Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
       1 Week Ago #5

    Install Windows 7
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  6. Posts : 7,365
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       1 Week Ago #6

    4lex said: View Post
    ...the recent update stops the machine from booting. It refuses to recover, wouldn't roll back to 1709. My only path was to restore a clonezilla image from a year ago which is 1703. It was working fine with 1709.
    It may not be lack of drivers that stopping you updating to 1803. Do you use Avast? If so, that is known to cause the machine to become unusable after updating to 1803.

    Windows 10: Update 1803 failed - leaves machine unusable (post #34)
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  7.    1 Week Ago #7

    AddRAM said:
    Install Windows 7
    That's kind of what I've done. I reverted my main desktop PC back to Win 7 (thank goodness for Macrium Reflect!) and replaced Windows 10 with Linux Mint 18.3 Cinnamon on my Dell laptop. I also bought a second-hand MacBook Pro 2012 'cos so many of the younger members of my family and friends are moving away from Windows to macOS and I wanted to know how to support them.

    I've just got one tower PC left running Windows 10 now (where the screenshot came from). It's old but a little too well specified to bung Linux Mint on at the moment until I can find a decent media server to run on it so I just keep it multi-tasking in the background until I have time to wipe it and put Windows 7 back on.

    As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft really lost the plot with the mentality behind Windows 10.
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  • Posts : 553
    Windows 10 Home SL 64-bit, v1803
       1 Week Ago #8

    I've reverted my laptop's OS to Windows 7 for few months then decided to go back to Windows 10 with 1803, so far I haven't encountered any problems except I have not yet installed the chipset driver (for USB 3.0), Windows Update couldn't detect the drivers for it .
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  •    1 Week Ago #9

    [QUOTE=I've now found a small utility that seems to do the trick. I'm hesitant to name it here...[/QUOTE]

    SNIP

    Well, that's just mean : )
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  •    1 Week Ago #10

    4lex:
    The simplest way - at admin command prompt type:
    netsh winhttp set proxy 0.0.0.0:8888
    This prevents Windows Update from downloading major version upgrades and unfortunately monthly cumulative updates too. Other updates are not affected.
    (This also blocks internet access for Metro apps but who cares. Desktop programs are ok.)

    If you want to install monthly updates regularly you can either download them from Windows Update Catalog (in search box type for example: 2018-06 1709) or use WSUS Offline tool:
    WSUS Offline Update - Update Microsoft Windows and Office without an Internet connection
    Both methods require user interaction.
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