Windows 10: What's The Story On These Windows Updates? Solved

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  1.    11 May 2018 #1

    What's The Story On These Windows Updates?

    After 3 failed installations of the 1803 update, I now have the updates in the attached screenshot instead. Each time 1803 abended and rolled back to the previous version of Windows. But now these updates appear instead. Does anyone have an explanation?

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  2. Berton's Avatar
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    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, WinXP Home Premium, Linux Mint
       11 May 2018 #2

    Press the Windows and the R key together, type winver and press enter to see what you have installed. I frequently use the Learn More [right column halfway down in your image] to get the Offline Installer file for the updates. For Version Upgrades, e.g. Version 1703 to 1709 or 1709 to 1803, I will use the MCT/Media Creation Tool and walk through the process windows to create the bootable USB drive, 8GB or larger, or download the .iso file used to burn an exact duplicate of the original DVD disc.

    The HID/Human Interface Device can be a mouse or keyboard or other device, needs drivers usually provided by the computer vendor or whatever device you have that is not working.
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    Windows10 Home v. 1803 bld. 17134.285
       11 May 2018 #3

    The Version 1803 update has me completely confused and concerned. On 05/08/18, my system received the latest v.1709 cumulative update, but nothing has been received for v.1803. I'm not enthused about manually downloading and installing it based on all of the issues people are posting about here and elsewhere, so I'm willing to let the update happen automatically. My system checks for updates everyday and nothing yet on v.1803. I understand that the automatic roll out is being done on a "staged" basis, but I am at a loss as to how that works. I made a system image on 05/09/18, so if things get FUBAR'd when 1803 hits, I should be ok (just hours lost rebuilding the system), but I'm still apprehensive about this impending update. I actually have three successive system image backups done after each Windows Update. I don't think I should have to be afraid of this update, but MS is not making me comfortable. OK, I'm done venting.
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  4.    12 May 2018 #4

    Anyone downloaded the above mentioned updates?
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  5. Berton's Avatar
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       12 May 2018 #5

    I have a couple of Desktops and a couple of Notebooks running Version 1803 Build 17134.48 without problems. The Desktops are using AMD CPUs and the Notebooks have Intel CPUs.
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  6.    12 May 2018 #6

    I have six machines, including 2 Lenovos, 1 Dell, 2 homebuilts with Asrock mobos, and another homebuilt with a Jetway mobo. All Intel processors ranging in vintage from Ivy Bridge to Skylake. All have upgraded to 17134.48 without problems. I'd recommend running the update troubleshooter and if that doesn't work, try downloading and updating with the free Windows Update MiniTool instead. It's often bailed me out of a jam when I can't update through Windows Update itself. Worth trying, anyway.
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  7. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       12 May 2018 #7

    jamis said: View Post
    I understand that the automatic roll out is being done on a "staged" basis, but I am at a loss as to how that works.
    It works by only offering the 'Features Update to Windows 10, version 1803' through Windows Update to those machines that Microsoft believes will have a successful update.

    In previous rollouts that has been to those machines tested by Microsoft and their OEM partners as being compatible, meaning the newest machines would get it first. In addition, machines with known hardware problems would be blocked from getting the Features Update until a fix was in place. For example, this was from the Creators Update rollout...
    ...the first phase of the rollout targets newer devices. Based on testing work done with our OEM hardware and ISV app partners, we believe these devices will have the best possible update experience and help us decide when itís time to begin the next phase of the rollout...

    Blocking availability of the update to devices we know will experience issues is a key aspect of our controlled rollout approach. We decide what to block based on user impact, and blocking issues are a high priority for us to address as quickly as possible... For example, our feedback process identified a Bluetooth accessory connectivity issue with PCs that use a specific series of Broadcom radios, ultimately resulting in devices not reconnecting as expected.... Once a solution is available, we will update our forum post and remove the block.
    Windows 10 Creators Update rollout: First phase update

    This rollout adds Machine Learning to that mix, meaning more and older machines are likely to see the 1803 update in the first phase.

    During the Fall Creators Update roll out we pilot tested machine learning (ML) to intelligently select devices that our feedback data indicated would have a great update experience. The results from the pilot were promising, and we consistently saw a higher rate of positive update experiences for devices identified using ML. For the April 2018 Update rollout, we will expand our use of ML to identify the devices ready to update, incorporating things like additional compatibility data. This will allow us to deliver updates to devices as fast as possible while providing even better customer experiences.
    How to get the Windows 10 April 2018 Update

    The Machine Learning seems effective, I was surprised to see that both my elderly systems in my specs below were seeing the 1803 update in Windows Update on day one. As predicted by the ML, both updated without a problem.

    If Windows Update doesn't show the 1803 Features Update as available for your machine, then it's probably for a good reason. It would be safest to wait until a check for updates say it is available for your machine. Then you can either let windows update do it for you or, as I did, download the ISO and update manually.
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    Windows10 Home v. 1803 bld. 17134.285
       12 May 2018 #8

    Bree: Thanks for the explanation. That eases my concerns a bit. FCU went very well on my system. Hopefully, this one will do likewise.
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  9.    13 May 2018 #9

    Update: I have installed the updates shown on my screenshot successfully. No problems to date ... however, the 1803 update is no longer listed as my system is now up to date apparently. Very strange indeed.
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  10.    14 May 2018 #10


    Bree: Thanks for the explanation. That eases my concerns a bit. FCU went very well on my system. Hopefully, this one will do likewise.
    I'm in the same position as you. On the same day, 08th May 2018, I received the very latest 1709 Cumulative Update but still waiting for the Spring 1803 update. Like you, I want to wait for Windows to do it automatically when it's ready. I could do it manually using ISO and carry out a fresh install but I'll see how it goes. It's just the suspense of waiting that's all.
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