Windows 10: Win 10 Updates/ Hardware/ Drivers


  1. Posts : 20
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 16299 Multiprocessor Free
       09 May 2018 #1

    Win 10 Updates/ Hardware/ Drivers


    Hi all.

    Just to let you know, I have the latest version of Win 10 Pro, 1803, released back on April 30th. With what I want to ask, perhaps there was a change in this latest update and it's why I'm seeing what I'm seeing.

    When it comes to my system's hardware and updates for it's latest drivers, I prefer to go to the manufacturer's web site, download the drivers, and install them myself. The specific reason for me writing this post is regarding my graphics card.

    I have an EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 SC, and when I want the latest drivers, I go to Nvidia's web site and download & install them.

    Now I don't know what possessed me to do this , but the other day I was in Device Manager, and I expanded Display Adapters (which shows my GTX 1080 card). I right-clicked on my card, chose "Update Driver Software", then chose "Search Automatically for Updated Driver Software"....and it found an update. I found this odd, because, I had just recently updated to driver version 397.64 from Nvidia's web site.

    After it installed this update it found, I checked to see what version it was; it was version 391.01. That was from months ago; I didn't want that! So, I went about the process of uninstalling those drivers, and then installing the most recent drivers from Nvidia's site.

    Then, most recently, I went into Windows Settings, Update & Security, Windows Updates: It was showing that it had downloaded updated drivers for my Nvidia-based graphics card, my 1080. There then is an "Install" button for me to click on to finish this process. Wait....wut?!?!

    And it's not even the latest drivers for my graphics card, it's an "older" one again.

    What's going on here?!?! I don't want Windows automatically downloading drivers for my hardware, graphics card or otherwise.

    So, this is what I wanted to find out: Did a feature change in Windows 10 latest update to version 1803? To automatically update your drivers for your hardware components? I did not select that feature before, and I've had Windows 10 since 2015.

    And, I realize there's a Sticky Post in this forum for stopping Windows 10 Updates: Stop Windows 10 Updates Properly and Completely

    I don't want Windows 10 Updates to stop completely, just not to update the drivers to my hardware automatically.

    I also found a Tutorial on this site, regarding Disabling Driver Updates in Windows 10: Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10

    I want to find out if this Tutorial still applies with the latest build of Windows 10 (1803). I'm not in front of my home computer right now (I'm at work, and they have Windows 7), but from the Tutorial on this, it's saying to: "Go to Update & security icon. Click on Windows Update on the left side, and click on the Advanced options link under Update settings on the right side. Check (on - default) or uncheck (off) Include driver updates when I update Windows under Choose how updates are installed for what you want."

    I can check & verify this when I get home, but the only thing that concerns me is that it says at the beginning of this Tutorial that, "This option is no longer available starting with Windows 10 Build 15019."

    So, what say you all? Will I be able to stop Windows 10 from automatically updating the drivers/ software for my hardware?
    Pez
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  2. Posts : 20
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 16299 Multiprocessor Free
    Thread Starter
       11 May 2018 #2

    Hi again, all.

    Well, I've gotten no replies, and....looks like I've discovered some info, and I'll be answering my own post. Perhaps others will be able to benefit from this.

    I gave a link to a tutorial on this site in my original post: Enable or Disable Driver Updates in Windows Update in Windows 10

    Unfortunately, the answer is "No", this does not apply to the most current version/ build of Windows 10, 1803; the Option described in the Tutorial does not exist anymore in the latest version of Windows 10.

    So, I did some more investigating and came across a few things; here's one that I implemented:

    - Go to: Control Panel/ System/ Advanced System Settings/ Hardware tab/ click on "Device Installation Settings"/ and then put the radio button in "No, let me choose what to do".

    And there was something else I came across in my search, but....it turned out to be a mistake; it was from an article I came across entitled "3 Ways to Disable Automatic Driver Updates in Windows 10".

    One of the ways described is if you have Win 10 Pro; you run Group Policy Editor, gpedit.msc

    You then go to: Computer Configuration –> Administrative Templates –> System –> Device Installation –> Device Installation Restrictions. In the right hand pane, select “Prevent installation of devices not described by other policy settings” and set it to Enabled.

    So, after performing this gpedit, I thought I was good-to-go.

    I was now going to install the latest Nvidia drivers for my EVGA GTX 1080 graphics card. Before I install my graphics drivers, I use an uninstall utility that completely removes it; you first boot into Safe Mode, then use this utility, and afterwards it automatically reboots your machine and then you can install your graphics drivers.

    After the reboot, since the proper graphics card drivers are not there, the screen display's resolution/ icons are HUGE. So, I then set about installing the latest Nvidia drivers I just download.....and the setup installer fails.

    Perhaps I downloaded a corrupt installer; I download another and I try again; fails. I still have a copy of the previous drivers I was using, so I try that installer; it fails.

    Great. My screen looks like crap with HUGE everything.

    So I try undoing those two changes that I've done.

    First I try undoing that "Device Installation Settings" (...let me choose...), but the Nvidia installer still fails.

    I then undo that gpedit I performed.........and THAT does the trick.

    So....stay away from that gpedit modification

    Why couldn't Microsoft have left that option in there like what was in that Tutorial on this site; it was right there in Settings/ Update & Security/ Windows Update/ Advanced Options.

    A great option to have and they get rid of it; go figure
    Pez
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 

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