Stopping the 'Blue Screen' from 'popping up' for Win 10 'invasion'! Solved

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  1. Wynona's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Skip Ahead Preview Build 18312
       #51

    Traveller11 said: View Post
    Hi f14tomcat.

    I am trying to upgrade to 1709 and have got the download from the tool you provided the link to.

    However I have had to use a different program to get the ISO onto the USB as the Rufus program was not very helpful or clear in achieving that objective.

    Still the USB is 'prepared, locked and loaded' I just hope when I shut this laptop down and reboot that getting into the BIOS it has the facility to Boot from a USB!

    Cheers!
    Here's a tutorial on using Rufus to create a bootable ISO, in case you need it Traveller:

    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials
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  2.    #52

    Hi f14tomcat.
    Thanks for that link.
    Having to reply on different machine as the laptop has for some reason when shutting down, decided to go into “Peparing to configure Windows. Don’t turn off your computer”!
    I haven’t been able to see if the USB will boot up with the 1709 Upgrade on it yet!
    Will keep you posted if and when if finishes what it’s doing!!!

    Cheers
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  3. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #53

    Traveller11 said: View Post
    I haven’t been able to see if the USB will boot up with the 1709 Upgrade on it yet!
    Will keep you posted if and when if finishes what it’s doing!!!
    @Traveller11, you don't boot from a usb to perform an upgrade. You don't even need to make a usb from the ISO.

    An in-place upgrade is started with your current windows running. You mount the ISO using File Explorer (double-click on the ISO) to get a virtual DVD drive. On the root of drive you will see Setup.exe. Run that to start an upgrade. An in-place upgrade lets you keep all your installed programs and files.

    The upgrade process is described here...
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade

    You should only need to boot from the install media if you want to do a clean install.
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  4.    #54

    Bree said: View Post
    @Traveller11, you don't boot from a usb to perform an upgrade. You don't even need to make a usb from the ISO.
    An in-place upgrade is started with your current windows running. You mount the ISO using File Explorer (double-click on the ISO) to get a virtual DVD drive. On the root of drive you will see Setup.exe. Run that to start an upgrade. An in-place upgrade lets you keep all your installed programs and files.
    The upgrade process is described here...
    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade
    You should only need to boot from the install media if you want to do a clean install.
    Hi Bree,
    As I didn't want a clean install and lose all the installed programs, then I am very glad that the boot option from the USB didn't work!

    So now I will try running the Setup.exe file and see what happens there.

    Thanks
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  5.    #55

    Hi again Bree,

    Clicked on the ISO 'Win10_1709_English_x64' (Picture attached)

    Got the DVD Drive (Picture Attached) DVD Drive (F).........

    Clicked on the 'Setup.exe' at the bottom of the list (Same picture as before)

    Upgrade starts to run........

    Then I get this screen: Picture: 'What needs your attention' (Picture 'Update 1)
    Looks like it is going to change the display language?

    After it then checks all the 'Updates required' it comes back with this screen: 'Ready to Install' (Picture 'Update 2')
    Nothing refers to the Upgrade to 1709 while for my own peace of mind all my Personal Data Files are not as Microsoft would like, stored on the 'C' Drive.

    Lets see what happens next which might take some time to perform the Install (Hopefully it means Upgrade to 1709)

    Cheers.........
    Apologies if the Pictures are a bit 'messy' in their layout!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ISO 1709.JPG   Update 0.JPG   Update 1.JPG   Update 2.JPG  
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  6.    #56

    I do not normally go for upgrades but did one when 17133 and it's as sloowww as molasses - not sure if it's the bum build or the upgrade - but will be clean installing 17134 for sure - much rather re-install apps and copy from backup's than endure the pain of a slow system.. but to each their own.
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  7. Bree's Avatar
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    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #57

    Traveller11 said: View Post
    Hi again Bree,

    Clicked on the ISO 'Win10_1709_English_x64'.........
    Then I get this screen: Picture: 'What needs your attention' (Picture 'Update 1)
    Looks like it is going to change the display language?
    Ah yes, you are in the 'two nations divided by a common language' trap

    Your current 1607 install is obviously EN-GB, while the ISO you have downloaded is EN-US.
    When choosing the language for your ISO in the MCT (or the 3rd-party Heidoc download tool) there were two 'English' options offered: 'English' (which is US English) and 'English International' (which is for the UK English install media).

    I presume you want to continue using the Queen's English, so I recommend you download the ISO (again), this time getting the 'Win10_1709_EnglishInternational_x64.iso' one :)

    PS: the EN-US one would upgrade you, but then you'd forever have to keep installing UK language packs in order to have the correct spelling for display language, spell checking, etc.. Best get the correct ISO.
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  8.    #58

    OMG! I would have thought that ‘English’ is UK English while the English International is for every other country that speaks it but is outside the UK!

    As the ‘Upgrade’ has already started when I read your post and is now at 33% if I don’t like what is at the end then it will be HELLO MACRIUM again and then get the correct ISO/Language/1709/Upgrade! Arrrrrrgh!
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  9. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 10,869
    10 Home x64 (1809) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #59

    Traveller11 said: View Post
    OMG! I would have thought that ‘English’ is UK English while the English International is for every other country that speaks it but is outside the UK!

    As the ‘Upgrade’ has already started when I read your post and is now at 33% if I don’t like what is at the end then it will be HELLO MACRIUM again...
    Actually, you can just upgrade 1709 en-us to 1709 en-gb.

    My main PC started life as an en-us OEM Windows 7 Premium (don't ask me why Toshiba installed en-us, it is a UK model) so of course with the free upgrade to 10 it got the en-us version. After the upgrade to 1511 annoyingly wiped all my UK language packs I took the step of upgrading from 1511 en-us to 1511 en-gb. Never needed to bother about language packs since then :)
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  10. Wynona's Avatar
    Posts : 23,085
    Windows 10 Skip Ahead Preview Build 18312
       #60

    Traveller11 said: View Post
    OMG! I would have thought that ‘English’ is UK English while the English International is for every other country that speaks it but is outside the UK!

    As the ‘Upgrade’ has already started when I read your post and is now at 33% if I don’t like what is at the end then it will be HELLO MACRIUM again and then get the correct ISO/Language/1709/Upgrade! Arrrrrrgh!
    I don't understand at all why Microsoft changed things around. Used to be that the downloads were labelled EN-US and EN-GB. It was easy to figure out which one you wanted, but there were other hurdles to jump, even back then.

    One way to look at it is that since Microsoft is in Redmond, Washington, USA, it's a natural for the US English version to be labelled English. Kind of like the International English version would be labelled English if Microsoft were in the UK. :)

    I think we should all give Microsoft some feedback on their download naming conventions!
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