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  1. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 1,615
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       31 Jul 2015 #21

    windows 10 does not support Windows Media Center

    May be why you getting Key Locked out

    also no need to install 8 - just install 8.1
    download windows 10 media and upgrade

    forget the 8/8.1 updates and Media center
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  2. Joined : Dec 2014
    Posts : 21
    Win 10 Preview
       31 Jul 2015 #22

    Thanks....but?


    Kyhi said: View Post
    windows 10 does not support Windows Media Center

    May be why you getting Key Locked out

    also no need to install 8 - just install 8.1
    download windows 10 media and upgrade

    forget the 8/8.1 updates and Media center
    I do not OWN a legal copy of Windows 8.1.
    Sooooooo??? Just re-re-re install Windows 8, then NOT add media center, and THEN try the 10 DVD upgrade?
    Would that seemingly then activate 10?

    Thanks for the tip!

    Windunce
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 272
    Windows 10 Fast Ring
       31 Jul 2015 #23

    Here's the scoop. The Win10 product key (actually the Win8.1 product key as upgraded computers only get a generic Win10 product key) is stored ON THE MOTHERBOARD, not on the hard drive. Windows 8.1 OEM mobos were required to have this capability (usually with a UEFI BIOS as well). If your mobo has this capability, Win10 will automatically activate after a clean install. If your mobo does NOT have this capability, then there may be issues. MS said that Win7 users may have to enter in the Win7 product key while doing a clean install or might have to call their help desk to activate Win10 on the machine. I think that if you did the upgrade to win10 and it was activated and then you tried a clean install and it did not activate, you need to call MS.

    Windows 8 moves to BIOS-based product keys - CNET
    Last edited by John Pombrio; 31 Jul 2015 at 23:09.
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  4. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 1,381
    Win 10 14393.51
       31 Jul 2015 #24

    John Pombrio said: View Post
    Here's the scoop. The Win10 product key (actually the Win8.1 product key as upgraded computers only get a generic Win10 product key) is stored ON THE MOTHERBOARD, not on the hard drive. Windows 8.1 OEM mobos were required to have this capability (usually with a UEFI BIOS as well). If your mobo has this capability, Win10 will automatically activate after a clean install. If your mobo does NOT have this capability, then there may be issues. MS said that Win7 users may have to enter in the Win7 product key while doing a clean install or might have to call their help desk to activate Win10 on the machine. I think that if you did the upgrade to win10 and it was activated and then you tried a clean install and it did not activate, you need to call MS.

    Windows 8 moves to BIOS-based product keys - CNET
    I'm not sure that I buy this.

    Manufacturers have been using BIOS based SLP (system locked pre-installation) keys for a long time. The PC still comes with a COA sticker, but that is not needed to install the OS from the custom install DVD that uses the SLP code. That the author of the article seems unaware of that doesn't do much for his credibility.

    I had to reconstitute an SLP Windows 7 installation disk for an old Dell a couple of years ago.

    I don't have a personal example that demonstrates that no activation information for the 10 upgrade is retained on the MB: the 2 systems that I've updated were Win 8.1/UEFI systems. One of them ended with a clean install (after the one time upgrade install) of Win 10.

    If Microsoft made it so that the ability to activate Win 10 again relies on having a Win 8.1/UEFI system, they've bought themselves a lot of extra support calls.
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  5. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10
       01 Aug 2015 #25

    I have a pretty old motherboard (no UEFI etc.) and i had no problem with activating my clean windows 10 installation.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 272
    Windows 10 Fast Ring
       01 Aug 2015 #26

    tumas04 said: View Post
    I have a pretty old motherboard (no UEFI etc.) and i had no problem with activating my clean windows 10 installation.
    That is a relief! It is still too new to figure out why some people are not being able to activate a clean Win10 install. Are they just plain doing something wrong like using the wrong version of Win10 on a DVD? Did they not get the upgrade done correctly before they did a clean install? I have had such a easy time upgrading 5 machines now that were not part of the insiders builds that I don't exactly see how folks could mess up a clean install, but folks are complaining about it even so.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Manchester CT
    Posts : 272
    Windows 10 Fast Ring
       01 Aug 2015 #27

    bobkn said: View Post
    If Microsoft made it so that the ability to activate Win 10 again relies on having a Win 8.1/UEFI system, they've bought themselves a lot of extra support calls.
    I simply do not know. Like in the post above, I simply do not know why some folks were not able to do a clean install after a successful upgrade. This concern comes from a MS blurb (God knows where I saw it tho) that said you might need the Win7/ win8.1 product key when doing a clean install and to contact MS if the clean install does not activate. Yes, possibly a LOT of calls.
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  8. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9
    Windows 7 HPremium
       01 Aug 2015 #28

    Letís understand how Win 10 is activated. There are two scenarios:


    - You have original win 7 or Win 8. You CANíT use your win 7 or Win 8 code to do a fresh install. You will have first to do an upgrade on your win 7 or Win 8 (run setup from inside Windows, I suppose), MS will then verify if your win 7 or Win 8 is original, record your LAN MAC and activate. After this upgrade activation you can do a clean install using the same motherboard (LAN MAC). You just skip inserting the code during installation. To activate, MS wonít verify the Win 10 code, but if the LAN MAC has been used before during an update. Of course, if you have used same Windows 7 or 8 code in more than one computer, only the first one to activate will activate automatically.
    Edited:
    This scenario was valid for first edition of Windows 10. From Win10_1511 you just place your Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 key code and it will activate.


    - You by a buy a Win 10 code. In this case you have to insert the Win 10 code you bought during installation. For what I read, I suppose MS will record the LAN MAC when you first activate, so it will activate automatically regardless when it was last activation, as long as it has the same LAN MAC, or in other words, same motherboard. Donít know what is the procedure to activate if you change your motherboard (and the LAN code associated). Also donít know if, with the same Windows copy and code, it is possible to install on more than one computer, using the telephone to activate.

    Iím not planning to do the update right away, for obvious reasons. Many bugs to correct and there will be many, many problems and fixes on the next months ahead. The ideal is to wait the first service pack before installing a new OS.
    Last edited by Megahertz; 17 Jun 2016 at 17:57.
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  9. Joined : Dec 2014
    Posts : 21
    Win 10 Preview
       01 Aug 2015 #29

    I 'demand' MS Support


    I've purchased 5 OEM Boxes in my life.
    Upon receipt, I call MS and purchase a non-OEM OS from them [Money to burn/stupidity?]

    I then install the MS OS.

    My newest purchase was an ASUS M32AD. It probably had the OEM OS 'codes?' built into the MB.
    What I did next was call MS and transfer the license from my older E-Machine to the ASUS.
    I the imaged the ASUS drive and wiped all the partitions.I install my MS Purchased Win8 OS onto the machine and called to activate.
    It went well and this box is now Genuine and Activated.
    But it may STILL have remnants of the MB activation data from the OEM version.

    So I think I will have to call to activate, or better yet call before I even try to install for the
    second time. The first time it said the key was blocked.

    Oh well
    Windunce
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  10. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 38
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 Aug 2015 #30

    The second machine I just finished a clean installation on was on an OEM copy of W7 Ultimate from my old work and it's activated perfectly.
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