Stop Windows 10 Updates Properly and Completely

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  1. Posts : 38
    WinDoze 10 Home
       #201

    Matthew Wai said:
    I already knew this ages ago, but you cannot check for updates when Windows Updates has been disabled.
    I have disabled auto-updates but not Windows Updates.
    I was just planning on checking say once a week, after temporarily re-enabling updates with the second command on an internet connection where I have a lot of data allowance available compared to what I have available at work on mobile broadband.

    Of course I still have to take all updates this way but at least I will not be stung for potentially high excess data fees.

    Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference between auto updates and Windows updates please ?
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  2. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #202

    sc config "wuauserv" start=disabled
    The above command will disable the "Windows Updates" service. Then, checks for updates cannot be run, and you don't know when updates are available. Updates will not be installed automatically.

    The commands in this file will disable auto-updates but not the "Windows Updates" service. Checks for updates can be run automatically via the VBScript, and you will be notified when updates are available. Updates will not be installed automatically.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 29 Nov 2018 at 07:41.
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  3. Posts : 38
    WinDoze 10 Home
       #203

    Thanks Matthew so your script package stops auto updates but will also advise me when updates are available which is the preferable situation. I will follow the readme in the Zip file and give it a try so thanks a lot.

    So I did that, I ran Disable hijackers and then imported Schedule Task as per the readme txt. So it says that "Check_for_updates" will be run automatically every day but does it matter that the PC I am implementing this on is only turned on from 7am until 3pm Mon - Fri ?

    So when an update becomes available what happens please. You say that I will be notified but how, a popup?

    So I get a notification that updates are available and what do I do then. How do I access a list of these updates and install them and do I have to install all of them.

    Sorry about all the questions but I prefer to understand what will happen before it actually does Thanks
    Last edited by Pedro147; 16 Nov 2018 at 21:49.
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  4. Posts : 38
    WinDoze 10 Home
       #204

    I shouldn't have been impatient because I got a popup this afternoon

    I did not run the update minitool but just left the dialog box open while I performed my next step.

    So unsure of what to do I went to settings and ran the check for updates which advised me that none were available. Is this because your script is holding the available update "in limbo" so to speak ?

    Can I review and then accept or reject this update. I really do not know how to proceed.

    Also how do you edit one of your previous posts please as only my latest post seems to be editatble as long as no one has posted after it and also only for a limited time.



    EDIT - I was again premature in asking questions as when I ran the Minitool I got this dialog box showing me the update with a list on actions on the left under Update history. It is all becoming a little clearer and seems like a fantastic piece of software so thanks to you and the others who helped you with this.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Stop Windows 10 Updates Properly and Completely-update-popup.png   Stop Windows 10 Updates Properly and Completely-update-setting.png  
    Last edited by Pedro147; 17 Nov 2018 at 01:31. Reason: Add additional information
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  5. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #205

    Pedro147 said:
    So it says that "Check_for_updates" will be run automatically every day but does it matter that the PC I am implementing this on is only turned on from 7am until 3pm Mon - Fri ?
    Open Task Scheduler, you will find a task named "Check_for_updates".
    Right-click on the name—▶Properties—▶Settings.
    You will see that "Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed" has been enabled.

    Pedro147 said:
    So I get a notification that updates are available and what do I do then. How do I access a list of these updates and install them and do I have to install all of them.
    For details about Windows Update MiniTool, see Download Windows Update MiniTool - MajorGeeks

    Pedro147 said:
    I did not run the update minitool
    You can always run it. It never does harm to your PC.

    Pedro147 said:
    I went to settings and ran the check for updates
    I suggest you NEVER click on the "Check for updates" button under Windows Update in Windows Settings. Otherwise, updates might be installed automatically (whether you like it or not). If you want to manually check for updates, always use MiniTool, with which you can decide whether to install (accept) or hide (reject) an available update (if any).

    If you have hidden an update, my VBScript will not find it because the script will not search for hidden updates.

    When you have installed an update, you must re-run "Disable hijackers" to make sure that update hijackers and auto-updates have been disabled. This is because the installed update could include hijackers, which will force auto-updates.

    Pedro147 said:
    Can I review and then accept or reject this update.
    Click on the title of the update shown on MiniTool. Then click on "Update Support URL" on the top right-hand corner.
    Yesterday my MiniTool found the update "KB4023057", which seemed an hijacker, so I rejected it.
    When MiniTool shows an update as "Critical Updates", it could be an hijacker, so we have to think twice before installing it.

    Pedro147 said:
    Also how do you edit one of your previous posts please as only my latest post seems to be editatble as long as no one has posted after it and also only for a limited time.
    I have just edited my post #182, which was written two weeks ago. The "Edit Post" button is still there.

    Pedro147 said:
    Sorry about all the questions
    Feel free to ask as many questions as you please.
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  6. Posts : 38
    WinDoze 10 Home
       #206

    Thanks again Matthew, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Perfect
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  7. Posts : 945
    windows 10 professional 64-bit, 22H2
       #207

    Matthew Wai said:
    Open Task Scheduler, you will find a task named "Check_for_updates".
    Right-click on the name—▶Properties—▶Settings.
    You will see that "Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed" has been enabled.

    For details about Windows Update MiniTool, see Download Windows Update MiniTool - MajorGeeks


    You can always run it. It never does harm to your PC.


    I suggest you NEVER click on the "Check for updates" button under Windows Update in Windows Settings. Otherwise, updates might be installed automatically (whether you like it or not). If you want to manually check for updates, always use MiniTool, with which you can decide whether to install (accept) or hide (reject) an available update (if any).

    If you have hidden an update, my VBScript will not find it because the script will not search for hidden updates.

    When you have installed an update, you must re-run "Disable hijackers" to make sure that update hijackers and auto-updates have been disabled. This is because the installed update could include hijackers, which will force auto-updates.


    Click on the title of the update shown on MiniTool. Then click on "Update Support URL" on the top right-hand corner.
    Yesterday my MiniTool found the update "KB4023057", which seemed an hijacker, so I rejected it.
    When MiniTool shows an update as "Critical Updates", it could be an hijacker, so we have to think twice before installing it.


    I have just edited my post #182, which was written two weeks ago. The "Edit Post" button is still there.


    Feel free to ask as many questions as you please.
    Hi @Mathew
    I had downloaded your file (Mathew's preference) some time ago, although I haven't used it yet. Do I also need the MiniTool from Major Geeks?
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  8. Posts : 38
    WinDoze 10 Home
       #208

    phrab said:
    Hi @Mathew
    I had downloaded your file (Mathew's preference) some time ago, although I haven't used it yet. Do I also need the MiniTool from Major Geeks?
    All the files required are included in Mathews link in post #202
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  9. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #209

    Note that all scripts in "Matthew's preference.zip" were created according to Matthew's personal preference. You are always free to modify them according to your own preference.

    For example, the "Check_for_updates" VBScript will search for both software and drivers. If you want only software but not drivers, you may add and Type='Software' into the script.
    I guess "the available update" below was a driver, which "the check for updates" somehow omitted.

    Pedro147 said:
    So unsure of what to do I went to settings and ran the check for updates which advised me that none were available. Is this because your script is holding the available update "in limbo" so to speak ?
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  10. Posts : 7,606
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #210

    Sorry, I forgot to mention that the following statement also applies to my script because "Disable hijackers" was extracted from pf100's Wrapper Script.
    pf100 said:
    1. If you want no sfc errors, uninstall the script first. The reason for the errors is that the disabled files cannot be read from or written to until the script is uninstalled
    So, before running sfc /scannow, you have to run "Undo everything" so as to unlock the system files (hijackers) previously locked (disabled) by the script, so that the hijacker files can be read (checked) by System File Checker (SFC.exe).
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