Windows 10: Is there a way to stop forced update?

  1.    24 Feb 2018 #1

    Is there a way to stop forced update?


    After the last forced update, my office 2010 did not work. I reverted back, and all is fine, but no matter what I do, the update automatically starts again. Since this one is a security update, I canít stop it from happening.

    The only thing I have been able to do to stop it is to turn off WiFi, then shut down. Buy once re booted, it starts again making my laptop unusable.

    im about ready to back up, wipe and reload windows 8or ditch it completely and go to a MAC. Looking for options before I go this route.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  2.    24 Feb 2018 #2

    Was it a CumUpdate or Office security update and what doesn't work now ? Assuming you know which update, read tutorial - Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    24 Feb 2018 #3

    mrgeek said: View Post
    Was it a CumUpdate or Office security update and what doesn't work now ? Assuming you know which update, read tutorial - Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
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    One this update is installed and running, none of the Office programs (word, excel, outlook etc) will open. Any file associated with them asks what default program to use to open, and when you try to make that Assoc. It’s not an available option

    i hope that makes sense.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    24 Feb 2018 #4

    Even though I have the update service disabled, it still wants to auto download it.

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  5.    24 Feb 2018 #5

    Though you have WU disabled, there are background processes via Task Scheduler which you can't stop. Version 14393 is Win10 1607 (July 2016) which is scheduled to be unsupported within two months. Version 16299 is the latest, 1709 aka Fall Creators Update. You should accept the 'Update now' (will take about 1-1.5 hrs). PS 1803 is due in a month to replace this version 1709.

    As far as Office goes, try Control Panel/Programs and Features, find Office 2010 and click 'Change' at top to retrieve installation files. Then Click 'Repair' option.
    Next, in Settings/Apps/Default apps, click 'Set defaults by app' and for each Office program, click 'Manage' then associate all protocols with that program.
    Lastly, in Settings/Updates & Security/Windows Update, click 'Advanced options' then tick 'Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows' to retrieve the many Office security updates that came out in the 1.5 yrs since your Win10 version. Good Luck
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  6.    24 Feb 2018 #6

    Thanks!

    Iíll give that a go, but it shouldnít be this hard to do. With any previous versions of Windows, the updates would download, and everything would continue to work.

    Microsoft has really dropped the ball with this version of Windows.
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       24 Feb 2018 #7

    Hi,
    Yeah I like that message by MS
    Say "One best thing about windows 10 is it gets better with every update" lol
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  8.    24 Feb 2018 #8

    Steelerdude1 said: View Post
    Thanks!
    I’ll give that a go, but it shouldn’t be this hard to do. With any previous versions of Windows, the updates would download, and everything would continue to work.
    Microsoft has really dropped the ball with this version of Windows.
    I agree that it shouldn't be hard to do.

    Where I volunteer Microsoft Office 2010 is in use and doesn't have any problems with 16299.
    mrgeek's recommendations in post #5 look good to me.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  9.    24 Feb 2018 #9

    I'm stuck with 1703 due to system spec. I had the same problem with forced updates and subsequent rollbacks.

    I use Windows 10 Home. I don't know of anything that can't be disabled.

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    Windows update service is kept running. I just checked for updates using WUMT and installed the security update but avoided the upgrade.

    Available updates:

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    After updating


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    You seem to have "windows 10 upgrade assistant" installed. I reckon you will have to stop WU service and disconnect from internet before resetting WU components rebooting and running advanced disk cleanup to include WU cleanup.

    Then you'd need to configure Windows Updates not to check for updates.

    Code:
    REGEDIT4[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]"ElevateNonAdmins"=dword:00000001"WUServer"="http://wsus:8530""WUStatusServer"="http://wsus:8530""DeferFeatureUpdates"=dword:00000001"BranchReadinessLevel"=dword:00000010"DeferFeatureUpdatesPeriodInDays"=dword:000000B4"PauseFeatureUpdates"=dword:00000001"ExcludeWUDriversInQualityUpdate"=dword:00000001[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]"AUPowerManagement"=dword:00000000"NoAUShutdownOption"=dword:00000001"NoAUAsDefaultShutdownOption"=dword:00000001"NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000000"ScheduledInstallDay"=dword:00000000"ScheduledInstallTime"=dword:00000002"UseWUServer"=dword:00000001"RescheduleWaitTimeEnabled"=dword:00000001"RescheduleWaitTime"=dword:0000000A"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001"DetectionFrequencyEnabled"=dword:00000001"DetectionFrequency"=dword:00000001"AutoInstallMinorUpdates"=dword:00000001"RebootWarningTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000000"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000001"RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:000005A0"AUOptions"=dword:00000002
    Code:
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]"AUPowerManagement"=dword:00000000"NoAUShutdownOption"=dword:00000001"NoAUAsDefaultShutdownOption"=dword:00000001"NoAutoUpdate"=dword:00000000"ScheduledInstallDay"=dword:00000000"ScheduledInstallTime"=dword:00000002"UseWUServer"=dword:00000001"RescheduleWaitTimeEnabled"=dword:00000001"RescheduleWaitTime"=dword:0000000A"NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers"=dword:00000001"DetectionFrequencyEnabled"=dword:00000001"DetectionFrequency"=dword:00000001"AutoInstallMinorUpdates"=dword:00000001"RebootWarningTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000000"RebootRelaunchTimeoutEnabled"=dword:00000001"RebootRelaunchTimeout"=dword:000005A0"AUOptions"=dword:00000002
    Then you'd need to disable the tasks shown in the screenshots including "Refresh Settings" which I believe is a task that can re-enable some settings if you have disabled them. I'm not entirely sure though. You can see 54 missed runs in my screenshot.

    On my machine there is no daily update check and I use third party tools to check for updates.

    Mostly I use either WUMT or W10Privacy but the second program comes with lots of extras that you might not need and it's tricky to configure. On the other hand:

    Important: By setting up the "Fake-WSUS" the system will not receive any updates without a manual check for updates via W10Privacy! The "Fake-WSUS" can be removed at any time via W10Privacy.
    https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/instructions-1/

    That is not easy to set up.


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    Manual update checks are still possible with this tool when everything WU is disabled (other than WU service)

    Download Windows Update MiniTool - MajorGeeks

    I would think that the recommendations for getting the upgrade to work are the best way forward but if that fails at least you know that there is a way to control updates for now. I say for now because the way windows updates works is subject to change at any time.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  10.    25 Feb 2018 #10

    mrgeek said: View Post
    Though you have WU disabled, there are background processes via Task Scheduler which you can't stop. Version 14393 is Win10 1607 (July 2016) which is scheduled to be unsupported within two months. Version 16299 is the latest, 1709 aka Fall Creators Update. You should accept the 'Update now' (will take about 1-1.5 hrs). PS 1803 is due in a month to replace this version 1709.

    As far as Office goes, try Control Panel/Programs and Features, find Office 2010 and click 'Change' at top to retrieve installation files. Then Click 'Repair' option.
    Next, in Settings/Apps/Default apps, click 'Set defaults by app' and for each Office program, click 'Manage' then associate all protocols with that program.
    Lastly, in Settings/Updates & Security/Windows Update, click 'Advanced options' then tick 'Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows' to retrieve the many Office security updates that came out in the 1.5 yrs since your Win10 version. Good Luck
    Thanks fo the advice!

    I downloaded the update along with the Other Microsoft updates box checked, and all is working! I did the repair procedure for Office as well before I updated.

    hopefully, things will go smoother from here on.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 

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