Capricious Windows 10 Updates


  1. Posts : 617
    windows 10 pro
       #1

    Capricious Windows 10 Updates


    Capricious is my own characterization. I miss win 7 when it comes to control of updates. Still running 1703.So with win 10 pro I believe I have done all that I can do to forestall updates for as long as possible (see pic) however when I closed down yesterday I got the message that updates were going to be installed come hell or high water so I just let it and upon reboot I looked to see what fresh hell might be awaiting me and saw this.

    2018-01 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056887)


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e-flash-player





    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056891)


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4056891



    Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057 FAILED


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...r-update-relia

    (Only certain builds of Windows 10 Versions 1507, 1511, 1607, and 1703 require this update. Devices that are running those builds will automatically get the update downloaded and installed through Windows Update.)

    So the third one failed. Anyone have an idea why my win 10 pro was "undeserving" of this update? TIA.

    Capricious Windows 10 Updates-capture2.jpg




    Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057 FAILED


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...r-update-relia
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  2. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #2

    Hi, with Win 10 Pro you can readily set updates to Notify. That means you get an action centre notification, click that, Settings opens, tells you about the update.

    A convenient way to do this is to use Windows Update Minitool (free) which is a useful thing anyway- also can be used to scan for and install updates, and to hide updates.

    Capricious Windows 10 Updates-1.jpg

    Yes, you can hide updates as well... using that tool or thus
    Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials

    Don't forget to set Active Hours in Settings.

    There is a thread per update per build in News. Have a look at that to compare your experience with
    KB4023057


    There are logs you can inspect.
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  3. Posts : 31,657
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #3

    phaedruspress said:
    ...with win 10 pro I believe I have done all that I can do to forestall updates for as long as possible (see pic) however when I closed down yesterday I got the message that updates were going to be installed come hell or high water so I just let it and upon reboot I looked to see what fresh hell might be awaiting me and saw this.

    2018-01 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056887)...

    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056891)...
    Those two are quality updates issued a month ago, so it is doing exactly as you have set it up - deferring quality updates for 30 days.
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  4. Posts : 617
    windows 10 pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Bree said:
    Those two are quality updates issued a month ago, so it is doing exactly as you have set it up - deferring quality updates for 30 days.
    Yup, that was the same conclusion that I came to and it only takes the sting out just a little : ) Any clue why the third one failed? and what dalchina says above. Even if I was notified those updates are still going to install, right? Active Hours does not really help me since at some point when I turn the computer back on and then shut down the delayed updates are going to install anyway, right? I have read before about the Windows Update Minitool. That tool is if I am not mistaken it is not going to actually forestall the updates any longer then I already have been able to. Is that right. Thanks to @dalchina and @Bree for lightening quick answers
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  5. Posts : 31,657
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #5

    phaedruspress said:
    Any clue why the third one failed?
    No, but if you want to stay on 1703 you don't want it. The purpose of KB4023057 (along with KB4023814) is to install (and regularly run) the Update Assistant to try to update you to 1709. See this thread...

    Windows keeps installing every day Solved - Windows 10 Forums
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  6. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #6

    You can hide updates you don't want. Windows Update Minitool is convenient for this- scan for, then hide the one you don't want.
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  7. Posts : 617
    windows 10 pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Bree said:
    No, but if you want to stay on 1703 you don't want it. The purpose of KB4023057 (along with KB4023814) is to install (and regularly run) the Update Assistant to try to update you to 1709
    I suppose I could "hide" them but it's funny how some things irk you and others don't. It seems that I have it set up correctly so that the Fall Creators Update will not be installed for some time and frankly I get a little snarky satisfaction seeing KB4023057 FAIL now knowing what it's intentions are. Is that right KB4023057 FAIL will continue to fail considering the way I have my updates configured? I believe that the Fall Creators Update was just within the past month released to administrators as safe so it it will still be a while before it is auto updated for me (that is if I do not do it manually myself sooner). The Hide or Show Windows Updates in the Windows 10 link that you provided is from 07/2015.Do you believe that the instructions are still applicable in 02/2018 or is there a better way or more recent method to "hide" updates? TIA.
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  8. Posts : 31,657
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #8

    dalchina said:
    You can hide updates you don't want. Windows Update Minitool is convenient for this...
    Yes, but if you'd prefer to use a Microsoft tool there was also a link to the wushowhide.diagcab tutorial Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10 in the post I linked to earlier.
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  9. Posts : 42,984
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #9

    And see that in the link to the tutorial, post #2
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