Windows 10: Capricious Windows 10 Updates

  1.    22 Feb 2018 #1

    Capricious Windows 10 Updates


    Capricious is my own characterization. I miss win 7 when it comes to control of updates. Still running 1703.So with win 10 pro I believe I have done all that I can do to forestall updates for as long as possible (see pic) however when I closed down yesterday I got the message that updates were going to be installed come hell or high water so I just let it and upon reboot I looked to see what fresh hell might be awaiting me and saw this.

    2018-01 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056887)


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...e-flash-player





    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056891)


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...date-kb4056891



    Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057 FAILED


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...r-update-relia

    (Only certain builds of Windows 10 Versions 1507, 1511, 1607, and 1703 require this update. Devices that are running those builds will automatically get the update downloaded and installed through Windows Update.)

    So the third one failed. Anyone have an idea why my win 10 pro was "undeserving" of this update? TIA.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture2.JPG 
Views:	2 
Size:	139.9 KB 
ID:	178135




    Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4023057 FAILED


    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...r-update-relia
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  2.    22 Feb 2018 #2

    Hi, with Win 10 Pro you can readily set updates to Notify. That means you get an action centre notification, click that, Settings opens, tells you about the update.

    A convenient way to do this is to use Windows Update Minitool (free) which is a useful thing anyway- also can be used to scan for and install updates, and to hide updates.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1.jpg 
Views:	1 
Size:	183.5 KB 
ID:	178136

    Yes, you can hide updates as well... using that tool or thus
    Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10 Windows 10 Tutorials

    Don't forget to set Active Hours in Settings.

    There is a thread per update per build in News. Have a look at that to compare your experience with
    KB4023057


    There are logs you can inspect.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  3. Posts : 8,115
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       22 Feb 2018 #3

    phaedruspress said: View Post
    ...with win 10 pro I believe I have done all that I can do to forestall updates for as long as possible (see pic) however when I closed down yesterday I got the message that updates were going to be installed come hell or high water so I just let it and upon reboot I looked to see what fresh hell might be awaiting me and saw this.

    2018-01 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056887)...

    2018-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4056891)...
    Those two are quality updates issued a month ago, so it is doing exactly as you have set it up - deferring quality updates for 30 days.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  4.    22 Feb 2018 #4

    Bree said: View Post
    Those two are quality updates issued a month ago, so it is doing exactly as you have set it up - deferring quality updates for 30 days.
    Yup, that was the same conclusion that I came to and it only takes the sting out just a little : ) Any clue why the third one failed? and what dalchina says above. Even if I was notified those updates are still going to install, right? Active Hours does not really help me since at some point when I turn the computer back on and then shut down the delayed updates are going to install anyway, right? I have read before about the Windows Update Minitool. That tool is if I am not mistaken it is not going to actually forestall the updates any longer then I already have been able to. Is that right. Thanks to @dalchina and @Bree for lightening quick answers
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  5. Posts : 8,115
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       22 Feb 2018 #5

    phaedruspress said: View Post
    Any clue why the third one failed?
    No, but if you want to stay on 1703 you don't want it. The purpose of KB4023057 (along with KB4023814) is to install (and regularly run) the Update Assistant to try to update you to 1709. See this thread...

    Windows keeps installing every day Solved - Windows 10 Forums
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  6.    22 Feb 2018 #6

    You can hide updates you don't want. Windows Update Minitool is convenient for this- scan for, then hide the one you don't want.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    22 Feb 2018 #7

    Bree said: View Post
    No, but if you want to stay on 1703 you don't want it. The purpose of KB4023057 (along with KB4023814) is to install (and regularly run) the Update Assistant to try to update you to 1709
    I suppose I could "hide" them but it's funny how some things irk you and others don't. It seems that I have it set up correctly so that the Fall Creators Update will not be installed for some time and frankly I get a little snarky satisfaction seeing KB4023057 FAIL now knowing what it's intentions are. Is that right KB4023057 FAIL will continue to fail considering the way I have my updates configured? I believe that the Fall Creators Update was just within the past month released to administrators as safe so it it will still be a while before it is auto updated for me (that is if I do not do it manually myself sooner). The Hide or Show Windows Updates in the Windows 10 link that you provided is from 07/2015.Do you believe that the instructions are still applicable in 02/2018 or is there a better way or more recent method to "hide" updates? TIA.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  8. Posts : 8,115
    10 Home x64 (1803) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       22 Feb 2018 #8

    dalchina said: View Post
    You can hide updates you don't want. Windows Update Minitool is convenient for this...
    Yes, but if you'd prefer to use a Microsoft tool there was also a link to the wushowhide.diagcab tutorial Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10 in the post I linked to earlier.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  9.    22 Feb 2018 #9

    And see that in the link to the tutorial, post #2
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 

Related Threads
I reformat and clean-reinstall Windows roughly on a monthly basis. Now using the Windows 10 1709 iso for this purpose. I have all auto-updates turned off (Windows 10 Pro) via group policy editor. After first boot, I run a batch file that installs...
MS related updates vs nornal Windows Updates? in Windows Updates and Activation
The option to receive other MS related updates box is NOT checked by default. So is it OK to leave this option Unchecked and rely only on the normal Windows Updates itself? By ticking that box, will I receive Security patches and Updates for MS...
After installing the Anniversary Update, I checked some of the Windows Update settings. I found that the "Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows" is now unchecked and further more it is also grayed out so I cannot recheck...
Hi there We got the crashed on machine running on Windows 10 started on last Wednesday and it's been working well for almost 1 month. After troubleshooting and restoring, we came across it's something to do with the Intel Drivers Display update...
MS Defender updates from Windows Update in settings fail, other Updates successful, but MS Defender from Control panel can update the same definition updates without problems (why, oh, why? can't I just select and copy from settings? :()...
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 23:53.
Find Us