Windows 10: W10 licence transfer. What happens if I change/upgrade my PC later on? Solved

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  1.    31 Jul 2015 #51

    ignatzatsonic said: View Post
    Any comments on my second paragraph in post 44?
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  2.    31 Jul 2015 #52

    Wow, already five pages long and there's still some confusion! From my perspective it's unfortunate that MS have adopted this 'keyless' solution. Imagine how much easier it would be if my first upgrade from W7/8/8.1 (retail) to W10 produced a new and unique product key that I could use directly on a new PC with a clean installation of W10.

    If my Windows 8.1 retail licence becomes a Windows 10 retail licence when I upgrade, why do I have to jump through hoops to do a clean installation on a new machine? I don't really understand why this approach has been adopted when it clearly inconveniences the end user in terms of overall installation time.

    At the point my W8.1 retail licence is upgraded to W10 retail, I'd like to be able to use it in exactly the same way from then on, with no additional hassle when I change my PC or its motherboard.
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  3.    31 Jul 2015 #53

    The new approach will eventually make things easier for everyone down the road. Once people are using largely original 10 keys, then they can reinstall without having to re-enter keys or have them be stored in the BIOS. It's unfortunate the transition will be painful for some people, but sometimes transitions have to be done so that everything is better down the road.
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  4.    31 Jul 2015 #54

    To find your key just download magical jelly bean app Google it install and tells your key
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       31 Jul 2015 #55

    beardsbn said: View Post
    To find your key just download magical jelly bean app Google it install and tells your key
    From my understanding that windows 10 only shows the default key, that posted everywhere.
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  6.    31 Jul 2015 #56

    Yea, the last group of code for the key for my Windows 10 upgrade is 8HVX7.

    julniko said: View Post
    I found something guys,
    These are the genereic Windows 10 keys:
    Windows 10 Home - YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7
    Windows 10 Home SL- BT79Q-G7N6G-PGBYW-4YWX6-6F4BT
    Windows 10 Pro - VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T
    Windows 10 Pro VL-MAK - QJNXR-7D97Q-K7WH4-RYWQ8-6MT6Y

    It seems like I have a Pro VL-MAK key, does this change anything?
    So it seems we all have upgrades using generic keys... only the Product ID seems unique from computer to computer.

    The 20 character Product ID is created during the installation process and is prominently displayed towards the bottom (in the Activation section) on the opening panel window resulting from right-clicking the Computer icon and selecting "Properties" from the context menu. It is used to obtain/qualify for technical support (limited though that may be) from Microsoft; it is of no use during the installation process.

    The 25 character Product Key is used to "prove" ownership of a legitimate license and is required to perform the installation, and is either stored on the DVD packaging on a sticker that says "Do not lose this number," or is on a Certificate of Authenticity (CoA) label affixed to an OEM computer.
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  7.    31 Jul 2015 #57

    wiggly1uk2000 said: View Post

    If my Windows 8.1 retail license becomes a Windows 10 retail licence when I upgrade, why do I have to jump through hoops to do a clean installation on a new machine? I don't really understand why this approach has been adopted when it clearly inconveniences the end user in terms of overall installation time.

    At the point my W8.1 retail license is upgraded to W10 retail, I'd like to be able to use it in exactly the same way from then on, with no additional hassle when I change my PC or its motherboard.
    Think of the Win10 UPGRADE as simply an update patch on top of Windows 8.1 to make it look like Win10. Lets call it Win8.1++. Don't think of it as a COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL of Win10 because it isn't! It does not have a product key and it does not have a way of doing a clean install using the Win 8.1 product key on a new computer. Like any other retail copy of Win8.1 that you want to move to a new computer, you first have to do a clean install of Win8.1 then run updates on it including the one to make it LOOK LIKE Win10 (Win8.1++). Of course, you need to wipe the old copy of Win8.1++ off of the original machine as well. Simple enough. Oh, and you only have a year to play with it before the win10 update patch for
    Win8.1 that turns it into Win8.1++ goes away.

    If you want a real, complete retail version of Windows 10 with all its rights and privileges including the ability for a clean install on a new computer, then you have to buy Windows 10 Pro for $199 which will give you a unique, valid Windows 10 product key.
    Last edited by John Pombrio; 31 Jul 2015 at 19:03.
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  8. Posts : 67
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       31 Jul 2015 #58

    John Pombrio said: View Post
    Windows 10 with all its rights and privileges including the ability for a clean install on a new computer, then you have to buy Windows 10 Pro for $199
    Do you personally believe that to be true in all cases?
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  9. Posts : 505
    Win 10 Pro x64 1607 (Build 14393.953)
       31 Jul 2015 #59

    I transfered my Windows 8 Pro x64 from Mac Pro 3,1 to Mac Pro 5,1 (new hardware) so my licensed Windows 8 was NOT activated anymore. Called the MS helpdesk, explained my upgrade and she just emailed a new activation key!

    KUDOS for MS!

    Cheers
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  10.    31 Jul 2015 #60

    M4v3r1ck said: View Post
    I transfered my Windows 8 Pro x64 from Mac Pro 3,1 to Mac Pro 5,1 (new hardware) so my licensed Windows 8 was NOT activated anymore. Called the MS helpdesk, explained my upgrade and she just emailed a new activation key!

    KUDOS for MS!
    MS has always been good about reactivating an OEM license ("my motherboard broke and I had to replace it!" works every time). MS simply does not care about a license or two, it is worried about the misuse of their activation protocols by thousands of users by use of a key generator of random valid key numbers or a time exploit and stuff like that.
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