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  1.    12 Aug 2015 #151
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    Maybe is bad question... but..... Is the upgrade to Win 10 still possible after that particular Harddrive has been reformatted or that desktop ?
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  2.    12 Aug 2015 #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    It is very clear where you stand. From the time period of July 29, 2015 to July 28, 2016 Microsoft has offered to upgrade your Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 legally installed on a computer for free to Windows 10. Once that computer - as defined by that specific hardware configuration with limited ability to upgrade it - has been upgraded, Microsoft has agreed to continue activating Windows 10 beyond the 1 year free period - otherwise they would just be offering a free preview. That is the promotional offer. Period. End of story. Sure - there are some misleading headlines out there - Microsoft giving away Windows 10, etc. - but that is not reality. The scope of the promotional offer is a free upgrade of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 that is installed on an existing computer.

    After July 28, 2016 if you wish to install any version of Windows 10 on a new computer whether that Windows 10 install is via upgrade or clean install - and making significant changes to an existing computer is considered making a new computer - you will have to pay for the Windows 10. As of right now, Microsoft has one set price for that Windows 10 - a full retail price with no discount for upgrading. What have you LOST? You have lost absolutely nothing. Because you never paid anything for Windows 10 to begin with and Microsoft never promised to continue upgrading new computers to Windows 10 for free nor to provide a free clean install for a new computer after July 28, 2016.

    It really is that simple. If you think Microsoft advertised something other than that - then after July 28, 2016 take them to court for not honoring what you think they advertised.
    I came here with no preconceived notions or expectations of what Microsoft is or isn't offering with the free upgrade. I have simply sought to learn the facts so that I can decide whether or not the free upgrade is for me.
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  3.    12 Aug 2015 #153
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    I have now marked this thread as solved. Unless anybody can demonstrate that WhyMe and NavyLCDR are incorrect in their clear and unambiguous assertions then I regard the matter as closed. I'm sure the argument will continue on but I'm happy enough that I now know where I stand. Thanks to all those who have taken the time to share their knowledge.
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  4.    12 Aug 2015 #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanten View Post
    Maybe is bad question... but..... Is the upgrade to Win 10 still possible after that particular Harddrive has been reformatted or that desktop ?
    Yes and maybe are the two answers.

    First you asked UPGRADE. Upgrade means install and activate a previous Windows 7 or 8/8.1 and upgrade that to Windows 10. Until July 29, 2016 you most certainly can do that for free. After July 28, 2016 it is pretty grey if you will be able to do that upgrade for free regardless of if you have done it before or not - but after you have done one upgrade, there is no need to do an upgrade again because -

    After you have done one upgrade on the computer, you can reformat the hard drive - delete all the partitions - clean it - whatever you want - and install Windows 10 fresh onto it without doing a second upgrade process. You can even replace some components that might fail like the hard drive and still be able to freshly install Windows 10 and it will activate. If you change some components and it doesn't activate online, call Microsoft and explain it to them and they might accommodate activating it for you.
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  5.    12 Aug 2015 #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanten View Post
    Maybe is bad question... but..... Is the upgrade to Win 10 still possible after that particular Harddrive has been reformatted or that desktop ?
    You should be able to. Since drive upgrades are quite common... I imagine the only iffy big hardware change would be the motherboard... but who knows for sure.

    It'd suck to get more RAM then have to buy Windows 10 again. Sometimes I think it'd be easy just to splurge and get a retail copy instead of OEM system builder copies.
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  6.    17 Aug 2015 #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggly1uk2000 View Post
    It's in Microsoft's interests to explain clearly and openly where we all stand when upgrading to Windows 10 from a 7/8/8.1 retail licence. The free offer is not so great if it creates confusion, doubt and perhaps even suspicion. If the EULA is the bottom line then why aren't all Microsoft staff singing from the same hymn sheet? I came here looking for answers and I'm still unsure where I stand.
    Clear And Present Danger! I've put my phone off the hook! W10 licence transfer. What happens if I change/upgrade my PC later on?

    Reverted to Windows 8.1, waiting for much more infos about this 'free' upgrade!

    Cheers
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  7.    17 Aug 2015 #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4v3r1ck View Post
    Clear And Present Danger! I've put my phone off the hook! W10 licence transfer. What happens if I change/upgrade my PC later on?

    Reverted to Windows 8.1, waiting for much more infos about this 'free' upgrade!

    Cheers
    Not much to it really... anyone with Windows 7 and/or 8/8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 for free within the first year of release... it won't illegal copies genuine, but if you have a genuine copy installed, you're good to go. You can even do a clean install afterward, but you must upgrade first.

    Had to clean install my dad's computer after upgrading, due to a problem with VLC and other programs, clean install went great, it reactivated without a problem and VLC, etc. work fine now.
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  8.    17 Aug 2015 #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4v3r1ck View Post
    Clear And Present Danger! I've put my phone off the hook! W10 licence transfer. What happens if I change/upgrade my PC later on?

    Reverted to Windows 8.1, waiting for much more infos about this 'free' upgrade!

    Cheers
    Scratching head......

    1. How much more infos about the 'free' upgrade could there possibly be?

    2. What do you have to gain by waiting? What do you have to lose by doing it now?
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  9.    17 Aug 2015 #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris2005 View Post
    Not much to it really... anyone with Windows 7 and/or 8/8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 for free within the first year of release... it won't illegal copies genuine, but if you have a genuine copy installed, you're good to go. You can even do a clean install afterward, but you must upgrade first.

    Had to clean install my dad's computer after upgrading, due to a problem with VLC and other programs, clean install went great, it reactivated without a problem and VLC, etc. work fine now.
    I have a legal OEM version of Windows 8 Pro x64, using a Mac Pro. The upgrade de-activated 90% of my apps, including the most commen ones.

    Let's see...

    Cheers
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  10.    17 Aug 2015 #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Scratching head......

    1. How much more infos about the 'free' upgrade could there possibly be?

    2. What do you have to gain by waiting? What do you have to lose by doing it now?
    1. Why so many people have to do a clean install?

    2. Wating and sit it out, perhaps till the next update 10.1. Let MS iron out the current issues. I'm not willing to clean install and install all my apps again. "Keep apps" simply didn't work out for me.

    Cheers
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