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  1.    30 Apr 2015 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    I'm trying to understand what you are saying Wolfgang, are you talking about what I put in the red box in this pic? If so, how is it in the way?

    Attachment 18056
    Yeah that's the place - right on top of All Apps. A very unfortunate position when I scroll thru the apps.
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  2.    30 Apr 2015 #42
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    Yes. For me that is to put it plain and simple a misplaced menu selection item which hopefully will be re-thinked and re-placed.
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  3.    30 Apr 2015 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I think he's talking precisely about that. Wolfgang and I have some fundamental differences in our opinion about the modern Windows user interface and its intended way to be used with an MS Account, but in this matter I totally agree with him.

    In my case, every single time I need to open the All Apps view I first click the Power Options link. In my opinion it is in a wrong place, it should be at top right as it was in previous builds.
    Kari, we have no fundamental difference regarding the MS account per se. I think it can be very useful. Our difference is about the way they enforce it or sneak it in. There should be a clear choice for the user and not on the bottom of the third page. And Apps should work with a local account - at least those that do not do any sync.

    I have an MS account myself and it was useful for my Instant Go devices where it stored the encryption key on my account.
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  4.    30 Apr 2015 #44
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    Wolfgang, my post was maybe ill worded but my point was that any arguments we have had are only differences in opinion and that I have no difficulties to admit when you in my opinion are right.

    Let it be said once more here in public that I see you as a remarkable treasure chest regarding everything computing and respect you for your vast knowledge and experience .

    Very sincerely, your fellow old school geek

    Kari
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  5.    30 Apr 2015 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Kari, we have no fundamental difference regarding the MS account per se. I think it can be very useful. Our difference is about the way they enforce it or sneak it in. There should be a clear choice for the user and not on the bottom of the third page. And Apps should work with a local account - at least those that do not do any sync.

    I have an MS account myself and it was useful for my Instant Go devices where it stored the encryption key on my account.
    Some apps do work with only a local account. Weather, I believe does... for instance.

    However, I see Microsoft's point on this. They have to look at it from a user confusion point of view. 99% of users won't care, and trying to explain it to them will just confuse them. So it's best to just guide them to using one. The small percentage of power users that DO care will be able to figure out how to create a local account, so making it harder to get to makes it less likely that end users will get confused.
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  6.    30 Apr 2015 #46
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    Okay, I see what you guys are saying. I can click all apps no issue for me
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  7.    30 Apr 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 View Post
    Only issues I've had with this build so far is Cortana doesn't speak at all and occasionally the start menu either won't respond to the button being pushed, or will get stuck open forcing a reboot to fix it. I did a clean install this morning and both of those issues still exist.
    Hello,
    I have the same issue with a 'silent' Cortana, who always seems to send answers through to Bing... also, if you click on the music icon for Cortana, it then says "Listening for music" and then doesn't respond any more...
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  8.    30 Apr 2015 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geneo View Post
    That is weird, I have none of these issues and I did an update from 1061 through windows update with zero problems. The power menu item is right above All apps item and doesn't interfere. I can switch between the start menu and screen (if that is what you mean) with no issues.

    That is weird about themes. Obviously they have overlooked this - at least one too many clicks to get there. Same with weather - I think they are expecting you to use location services. - I can't even find where I can manually set the location for the weather forecast. These two things will be fixed, I am sure - they are just a couple of annoyances.
    You can set up your location by clicking on Action Centre (grill bottom r/hand corner) where there is a location block which unfortunately is blank on my machine, but by clicking on All Settings, then Privacy, then Location, there you will find many options.
    Scroll down for Weather and turn on.
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  9.    30 Apr 2015 #49
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    Mystere, you are right. Some apps work with the local account but others don't - e.g. Calendar. And it's the same on 8.1 where one of my friends wanted to have a calendar on her one and only desktop PC, but it did not work with the local account. I found a really nice one in Linux which I have setup in a virtual machine for her anyhow - for her banking.
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  10.    30 Apr 2015 #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    Okay, I see what you guys are saying. I can click all apps no issue for me
    I haven't had any issues with the all apps button either. There seems to be plenty of space between it and the power off button, at least on my start menu.
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