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  1.    10 May 2015 #291
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 13,114
    Windows 10 Pro

    Yes. No help. Reboot, WSReset also of no help.
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  2.    10 May 2015 #292
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    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    It hasn't worked the last few builds. When W10 is final, this customize feature should be back I think.

    Attachment 18580
    It's still there in 10074. Use first tab, "Taskbar". It will take you to the "new" dumb "settings" version, but the old way is still under control panel.
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  3.    10 May 2015 #293
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    Arnold, MD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Yes. No help. Reboot, WSReset also of no help.
    Re-register apps?
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  4.    10 May 2015 #294
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 13,114
    Windows 10 Pro

    No, nothing helped. Not a big issue as I could repin everything, just a big surprise.
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  5.    10 May 2015 #295
    Join Date : Sep 2014
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro

    I tried for days to get Defender to show up in the tray, Avast Internet Security does.
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  6.    10 May 2015 #296
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    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I tried for days to get Defender to show up in the tray, Avast Internet Security does.
    Not at same time I hope ?
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  7.    10 May 2015 #297
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    Bamberg Germany
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    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Win10 Pro Insider Fast Ring, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu

    @Kari maybe there is a bug with the "Make available to all users" policy, that when the one account was deleted, it reset something. I dunno.
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  8.    10 May 2015 #298
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    Penns Forrest
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    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Anyone else experienced this?

    I added a local standard user account to test a certain thing, switched to it, did my test, switched back to my normal user account and deleted the test local account.

    All default app tiles gone from Start. Apps are still in Start Menu but I had to repin then one by one.
    Funny thing - I also just set up a 2nd account today to test something. The account was local/std and is still on my machine. I'll try removing it and get back to you with what I experience.

    Maybe you can check something for me on your machine(s)
    Launch File Explorer
    change the navigation pane to 'show all folders' (right click, context menu)
    expand your user profile in the navigation pane
    and select your User profile so that it shows the folder contents in the main pane.

    What I and others are seeing is a 'duplication' of the User system folders (Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos).
    You do not see the 'duplicates' when you go directly to your C:\Users\<username> folder, only when you view it with the User folder delegated to ThisPC.

    Shawn helped one member through it, but those things did not help on my machine.
    Solved Duplicate subfolders in User folder - Windows 10 Forums
    Double Users Folders after 10061 - Windows 10 Forums

    Anyway, the 2nd user had the same issue, so I can delete it to see what happens.


    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    It's still there in 10074. Use first tab, "Taskbar". It will take you to the "new" dumb "settings" version, but the old way is still under control panel.
    Those are two different things.
    1) The question raised was about Start menu customization - that is long gone
    Seeing the next wave of Start menu changes tells me that the option will NOT return, at least not the way it was: left pane include User folders, Games, and system tools.

    2) the area you pointed to concerns the notification area (system tray icons ...)

    but ... but... that helps Gary ... Thanks Dick


    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I tried for days to get Defender to show up in the tray, Avast Internet Security does.
    Try this:
    Launch Defender
    Look in the drop down system tray
    drag the defender Icon to the taskbar area

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    I don't know if it will 'stick' through a reboot - I'll leave that as an exercise for the student - please let me know if this worked for you - thanks.

    F14 provided extra information:
    after sticking Defender on the task bar notification area, paste this into the explorer address bar:
    Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Notification Area Icons
    !!!!! this won't take you directly there, but the suggestion below the address bar will,
    !!!!! don't hit enter - select Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Notification Area Icons below the address bar

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    You should see Defender in the list - set it how you want it and see if it sticks.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    An aside re: Avast. Some members have reported issues on their machines when Avast was installed on it. This might be the way they have Avast configured or it might be that Avast and Win10 aren't ready for each other. Something to keep in mind if you run into more serious issues (i.e uninstall Avast as a test)
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  9.    11 May 2015 #299
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    Arnold, MD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
    Funny thing - I also just set up a 2nd account today to test something. The account was local/std and is still on my machine. I'll try removing it and get back to you with what I experience.

    Maybe you can check something for me on your machine(s)
    Launch File Explorer
    change the navigation pane to 'show all folders' (right click, context menu)
    expand your user profile in the navigation pane
    and select your User profile so that it shows the folder contents in the main pane.

    What I and others are seeing is a 'duplication' of the User system folders (Documents, Downloads, Music, Pictures, Videos).
    You do not see the 'duplicates' when you go directly to your C:\Users\<username> folder, only when you view it with the User folder delegated to ThisPC.

    Shawn helped one member through it, but those things did not help on my machine.
    Solved Duplicate subfolders in User folder - Windows 10 Forums
    Double Users Folders after 10061 - Windows 10 Forums

    Anyway, the 2nd user had the same issue, so I can delete it to see what happens.


    Those are two different things.
    1) The question raised was about Start menu customization - that is long gone
    Seeing the next wave of Start menu changes tells me that the option will NOT return, at least not the way it was: left pane include User folders, Games, and system tools.

    2) the area you pointed to concerns the notification area (system tray icons ...)

    but ... but... that helps Gary ... Thanks Dick



    Try this:
    Launch Defender
    Look in the drop down system tray
    drag the defender Icon to the taskbar area
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	xdefnd.PNG 
Views:	217 
Size:	1.2 KB 
ID:	18783

    I don't know if it will 'stick' through a reboot - I'll leave that as an exercise for the student - please let me know if this worked for you - thanks.

    F14 provided extra information:
    after sticking Defender on the task bar notification area, paste this into the explorer address bar:
    Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Notification Area Icons
    !!!!! this won't take you directly there, but the suggestion below the address bar will,
    !!!!! don't hit enter - select Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Notification Area Icons below the address bar
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	xdefnd-b.png 
Views:	38 
Size:	12.9 KB 
ID:	18787

    You should see Defender in the list - set it how you want it and see if it sticks.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	xdefnd-c.png 
Views:	45 
Size:	23.7 KB 
ID:	18788

    An aside re: Avast. Some members have reported issues on their machines when Avast was installed on it. This might be the way they have Avast configured or it might be that Avast and Win10 aren't ready for each other. Something to keep in mind if you run into more serious issues (i.e uninstall Avast as a test)
    Sorry about that.... I read too fast and all I saw was "Customize" and it was the same general right-click taskbar options. There are more than a few ambiguous notations by MS. Like "Personalize" vs "Personalization" , That one will take you down two different roads! Anyway, maybe it will help somebody when they try notification customization and end up in settings app, and think "That's not the right thingy!".
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  10.    11 May 2015 #300
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3

    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Sorry about that.... I read too fast and all I saw was "Customize" and it was the same general right-click taskbar options. There are more than a few ambiguous notations by MS. Like "Personalize" vs "Personalization" , That one will take you down two different roads! Anyway, maybe it will help somebody when they try notification customization and end up in settings app, and think "That's not the right thingy!".
    There's never a need to apologize, at least not to me. I read fast too

    I think your information did help Gary's issue. I tested the Defender system tray thing and it sticks though a reboot - sort of.
    It only shows up when Defender is active and I'm not sure if that includes when it does a scheduled command line scan. But hey ... the icon is there and does show up if you manually launch Defender - and it stays in the tray when you close Defender down.

    Wait ... are you saying there's a difference between Personalize and Personalization


    Windows must be very fast with all of those quick (access, toolbar, launch ...) features
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