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  1. Posts : 204
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #11

    First thing is boot with a Macrium Reflect disk and image the hard drive. Then boot with Windows 10 disk and preform a clean install. Hopefully if will activate with the Microsoft account.
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  2. Posts : 204
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #12

    I've done a clean install with Windows 10. Signed in with Microsoft and Windows 10 is activated. Now I have to copy files from the image and install apps. Is there an easier way to recover from an expired Windows insider Preview?
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  3. Posts : 56,830
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #13

    Slugger said:
    I've done a clean install with Windows 10. Signed in with Microsoft and Windows 10 is activated. Now I have to copy files from the image and install apps. Is there an easier way to recover from an expired Windows insider Preview?
    If you've gotten that far, the time and effort to figure out how, and if, you could resurrect an expired OS seems to not be worth it. Best to keep on the course, restore your files and apps, and keep reasonably up to date on builds. And backup the good working OS and files and apps! (Macrium)
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  4. Posts : 5,478
    2004
       #14

    Slugger said:
    Is there an easier way to recover from an expired Windows insider Preview?
    Remember to upgrade. That would be the easiest way.

    I knew I had to upgrade the previous lot by October 15th 2015.

    You know you have to upgrade again by 16 July 2016.
    Last edited by Barman58; 16 Feb 2016 at 06:30. Reason: Removed unneeded bit ;)
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  5. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #15

    lx07 said:
    It's not true though just because lifehacker says so. I have machines activated without an underlying license and so do many others.

    Microsoft gave licenses to active insiders who were not using qualifying OS (unless you think they somehow forgot what generic keys they gave out and did it by mistake).
    Yep. I joined the Windows Insider Program in October 2015 without an underlying Windows 7 or 8.1. Although Microsoft said Insiders wouldn't get a free copy of Windows 10 without upgrading from Windows 7 or 8.1, I'm sort of "grandfathered" if you will.

    It's my opinion that the OP can do exactly what he proposes. Try it and see, Slugger. :)
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  6. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #16

    Slugger said:
    I've done a clean install with Windows 10. Signed in with Microsoft and Windows 10 is activated. Now I have to copy files from the image and install apps. Is there an easier way to recover from an expired Windows insider Preview?
    Exactly what I thought.

    I had to refresh my Insider Build and when it was done, I had a whole laundry list of the programs it took off!
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  7. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #17

    It's also worth remembering that 2 builds of Windows 10 Pro and Home are not time limited: 10240, and 10586. Once you have an Insider build preview other than this, it is designed to expire on some date in the future, but the digital entitlement you have at present on that device should not expire if you run one of the numbered builds above. That is the way it is at present, but things may change by the end of next July.

    It is not difficult to obtain 10586 - see the tutorials on obtaining a Windows 10 Iso setup installation by downloading either the Media Creation tool or direct from Microsoft.

    If you want to keep things going, it is not difficult to dual boot to one of these builds and to an Insider Build - all you need are a couple of 30 GB partitions. What you don't want to do is let your non-expiring build get upgraded to one that expires - and you can do that by not opting into the Insider program on that build, but allowing the Insider preview build to upgrade every so often before it is due to expire.

    One condition of an Insider installation is the Microsoft account it is linked to, and the Microsoft account website should be able to tell you some information about the insider device linked to that account at https://account.microsoft.com/devices
    Strange to tell, but even if I have Insider versions dual booting on the same PC, the page above shows only my 10586 versions on my machines.

    Microsoft defines "Devices" quite specifically in the EULA for Windows 10. I believe it is about to start testing how to enforce those definitions soon, which it does not do already. If you remain an Insider, those definitions may continue not to be enforced until the program is ended, or replaced by a new type of program.
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  8. Posts : 124
    Windows 10
       #18

    So just to clarify:

    I upgraded a laptop with a legit version of Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and opted for Insider Builds. Now my laptop says evaluation copy. So because I optd in to insider builds, I have to reinstall my operating system before 7/16??? This makes no sense, they are making it harder for people who opt into insider builds. If your license is legit to start it should not expire.
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  9. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #19

    The latest insider version build 14271 is described as "evaluation" and will time expire. If you remain in the Insider Program, it will be eligible to, and will receive further updates automatically before the expiry date. Therefore it will not leave you high and dry, when the current evaluation ends.

    The latest release to the general public is 10586, which will not time expire. You can get this version as an ISO download or via the Media Creation Tool. See the tutorial forum for details. You are at liberty to downgrade to this build at any time.
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  10. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #20

    jmsnyc said:
    So just to clarify:

    I upgraded a laptop with a legit version of Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and opted for Insider Builds. Now my laptop says evaluation copy. So because I optd in to insider builds, I have to reinstall my operating system before 7/16??? This makes no sense, they are making it harder for people who opt into insider builds. If your license is legit to start it should not expire.
    Not at all, Jmsnyc, not at all. What the expiration date means is that if you were to choose not to continue on the Insider Program, and you didn't uninstall the current build, it would expire on that date. However, if you choose to stay on the Insider Program, whichever build you're on won't have a chance to expire; another build will be released before that time.

    If you should decide to quit the Insider Program later, all you'll have to do is download the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool from here: Windows 10 and since you've already legitimately upgraded from Windows 8.1, you'll only (most likely) do a clean install.
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