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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
    Texas
    Posts : 7,544
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       25 Jan 2015 #211

    IownAmoneyPit said: View Post
    gregrocker said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I for one am a user that really likes the new start menu. The way it's organized is both nice and helpful for me at least. And I've not had an issue so far changing the title of the categories.
    But what if one doesn't want categories? How do we get rid of those headings, or the empty spaces which inexplicably are for typing in headings for the Apps, to reclaim the space for a compact Start Menu with Pinned, Most Used and selected App tiles?

    With maybe half of users pushing for Desktop style while the other half pushes for touch/tablet, they surely have difficult choices to make. But the way it was explained to me this will be sorted out in Continuum so that once you choose your interface or its chosen for you by the presence of touch (or not), the customizations would only need to be for that format. I feel like I'm having to retrieve a Start menu for Desktop use from encroaching touch/tablet preeminence that ruined 8 for most consumers.
    @gregrocker to get rid of the categories with the dots just delete all text in each category listed and they will disappear. I managed to get my Start Menu arranged with no spaces although sometimes it takes some persuading to get a new row added without a space between.

    One positive change by M$ is you can now move or place a tile where you want it and all of the rest of the tiles no longer reshuffle themselves undoing ones work to organize the tiles the way they want.

    I would hope that in future builds that more customization options will be added and some restored such as turning live tiles on or off.

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  2. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Jan 2015 #212

    AddRAM said: View Post
    Who`s majority opinion Dave ?

    I see nothing but complaints about every build.
    That's because only those with complaints tend to post things.. those that are happy with something are often quite silent. It's just the way humans work.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    Canada
    Posts : 801
    Windows 10 Home/10 Pro x 3/Windows 10 Insider Preview ?
       25 Jan 2015 #213

    Dude said: View Post
    That looks good the way you made it
    Thank's Dude.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       25 Jan 2015 #214

    IownAmoneyPit said: View Post

    One positive change by M$ is you can now move or place a tile where you want it and all of the rest of the tiles no longer reshuffle themselves undoing ones work to organize the tiles the way they want.

    I would hope that in future builds that more customization options will be added and some restored such as turning live tiles on or off.


    I am little confused on your live titles comment. I know you said you can't turn them on or off. You can still add or delete live titles correct? Once you delete the live title, no more data will come in from that live title correct?
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  5. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Jan 2015 #215

    groze said: View Post
    I still say customizable desktops and start menu would go a long way to get people to do the upgrade. I hate bringing up Linux. I also have a dual boot system with Lubuntu but I don't use the default Lubuntu desktop, I manually installed the Xfce destkop. When I am in Linux, I use the Xfce desktop most of the time. Microsoft needs a default desktop plus some other customizable desktop available for download at no charge.
    There are plenty of third party Windows desktops, some free... You don't think Ubuntu themselves create all those desktops do you? Other than Unity, all those desktops are made by third parties.

    What's more comparing your average Linux desktop to the Windows (or Mac) desktop fails in so many ways. Most of them don't have drag-and drop icon placement. Hell, Linux itself doesn't have a simple concept both Windows and Mac have had for 30 years, embedded icons in the applications so you have to specify external icons for you menus for every application.. this typically means a text-based configuration file, or a horribly designed menu editor. Configurable? Sure. User-friendly? Not at all.

    Don't even get started on multiple monitors.. The better distros typically include a tool that may work for certain configurations... often times you have to have monitors of the same size to make it work correctly, if at all. You may have to use a different tool depending on which video card you have. Or you may have to hand-edit your configuration files to define your monitors correctly for multi-monitor usage. Again, configurable? Sure... User-friendly? Fail.

    Virtual desktops work great, maybe... if you're not using something that does direct buffer writes.. or god help you if you have more than one video card of different types and you want to do 3D desktops...

    Linux on the desktop always fails because everything is pieced together, and they only go 80% of the way until the problem is solved for whoever was doing the work. Once their itch is scratched, they lose interest in completing the work and making it rock solid and fully featured. Yes, you have lots of choice... but not if you want a consistent, working system.

    * Note: Yes, I realize the irony of talking about consistency given Windows 8-10's half-metro/half-desktop design, but at least it all works together and they're on a path to make it all consistent over time.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       25 Jan 2015 #216

    Mystere said: View Post
    groze said: View Post
    I still say customizable desktops and start menu would go a long way to get people to do the upgrade. I hate bringing up Linux. I also have a dual boot system with Lubuntu but I don't use the default Lubuntu desktop, I manually installed the Xfce destkop. When I am in Linux, I use the Xfce desktop most of the time. Microsoft needs a default desktop plus some other customizable desktop available for download at no charge.
    There are plenty of third party desktops, some free... You don't think Ubuntu themselves create all those desktops do you? Other than Unity, all those desktops are made by third parties.
    Yes, I am aware Linux & other desktops are made by third party developers. In Windows 7 Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Personalization you can choose Windows 7 Classic or Windows 7 basic theme and several others. My point is we need options not just one fancy desktop, just my opinion of course.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    Canada
    Posts : 801
    Windows 10 Home/10 Pro x 3/Windows 10 Insider Preview ?
       25 Jan 2015 #217

    groze said: View Post
    IownAmoneyPit said: View Post

    One positive change by M$ is you can now move or place a tile where you want it and all of the rest of the tiles no longer reshuffle themselves undoing ones work to organize the tiles the way they want.

    I would hope that in future builds that more customization options will be added and some restored such as turning live tiles on or off.


    I am little confused on your live titles comment. I know you said you can't turn them on or off. You can still add or delete live titles correct? Once you delete the live title, no more data will come in from that live title correct?
    What I meant was the option to turn the live tile on or off is no longer available in the right click menu and if I delete the whole tile I will have to go to the store and reinstall the app. A good example of an app that you may want to turn on or off is an weather app if you are posting a screen shot and don't want to give away your location.

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  8. Joined : Nov 2014
    UK
    Posts : 232
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       25 Jan 2015 #218

    TairikuOkami said: View Post
    WightWalker said: View Post
    Setpoint is installed for the Keyboard & Mouse but no sidesways scrolling.
    Sidesways scrolling working on my end. Do you have NetFramework 3.5 installed?
    No it didn't appear to be but still doesn't scroll after installing it.
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  9. Joined : Jan 2015
    Wesleyville
    Posts : 29
    Microsoft Windows 7/10
       25 Jan 2015 #219

    Meh, I hope it's just the build, but it's pretty buggy. I have 4 GB of RAM on my VM and without doing anything it's using 90% cpu the main culprits being:

    Search FiltersSearch Protocol
    Speech Run time Executable
    Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation
    Windows Search Index

    Noticed Disk Defrag was running, literally moments after I started my VM along with high cpuCan't re-size my start menu (without a reg tweak) so I have a solid colored rectangle with nothing in it

    Cortana could be cool, but having to search my computer at the same time as the web is pointless as it takes far too long to generate search results for both. They need to leave the computer search bar in the start menu and cortana for web searches.

    Why do i have to wait 3 seconds when I select an app, say calculator just to have to see a stupid picture of the calculator why it loads. Before if I selected it it popped up immediately with zero wait time. This applies for pretty much every app I've selected, not a fan. I don't need a reminded that it's a calculator.

    Think I'll wait for the RT and hope they iron out all the details. I sure hope they give options for customization as the colors and designs are in my opinion, way too kindergarten like. Some like it some don't, but as of now it appears you have to deal with a look you dislike (I haven't looked online as of yet and third party software seems like a slap in the face aesthetics) so I'm hoping they give that option at least
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  10. Joined : Dec 2014
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 399
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Jan 2015 #220

    essenbe said: View Post
    It sure does something. With the last build, every time I booted into 10, everything was fine. Every single time I booted into 7 after that it wanted to run check disk on every drive I had. It did it every time. Once it was finished it never wanted to run check disk again until I booted into 10, then the same routine. If this one does the same thing, it won't live long.
    Steve,

    This is happening to me now too.

    - Gene
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