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  1.    24 Jan 2015 #91

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Used it briefly last nigh on my laptop. My first impressions are that I don't like the new Start Menu/Screen. It's seems usable enough in tablet mode. Took me forever to find that setting to change it. Its more appealing looks wise in tablet mode than the other mode, for me anyway. Still don't like it though, but I'll take my own advise and try using it for a while before totally giving up on it. It's a new learning curve that's for sure. No more charms bar so you have to use "Settings". Control Panel is still there, if you look hard enough. The old just type what your looking for on the Start Screen is gone? Why? You have to hover in the top right corner for a bit now to get the X to close stuff. No Desktop Tile on the Metro Start screen/menu, you have to click the Start Button to get back to the desktop. Windows logo key might work too, I didn't think to try it. I'm on my desktop PC running 8.1 at the moment, debating to even bother installing 10 TP on it? I likely will but I'm not as enthused about doing it as I was yesterday. One thing I noticed is it took forever for something to happen after booting from my thumb drive on my laptop. Just a blank screen with no drive activity that I could see. The just about when I was going to force a power down the install started up again. I didn't time it but I'm guessing 10 minutes at least of just a black blank screen. No flashing under score or cursor. Anybody else in the same spot may just want to wait it out to see if it continues after a while.

    Hi there

    These are my real problems with this build

    1) No Search (mine doesn't work) on start screen so if I need EXCEL I'm back to scrolling down the menu vertically (well it's a bit better than the endless Horizontal scroll I had in W8/W8.1).

    2) Start menu totally non customiseable on the applications side (left).

    3) Start menu far too large on smaller laptops -- about 45% of a 14 inch screen (and why shouldn't I use a 14 inch screen -- nice and portable and reasonably light unlike the normal 16 - 16.5 inch monster laptops you ofen see).

    4) Control panel and settings integration really hosed up -- either have a control panel or have ALL the settings in settings -- it will drive anybody mad to find stuff.

    5) can't change text size on screen from settings, (resolution too small - 1368 X 768 as normal laptop. That will p*** a lot of people off). You can fiddle around with right mouse click on the desktop screen area ==>personalisation and it works as before.

    6) Networking still a bit flakey.

    I do like most of it though - but it seems a really half assed attempt at the moment with the whole start menu / tablet mode thing going into a total mess. Seems a bit like how they used to describe a Camel -- A Horse designed by a Committee.

    There will have to be another build --this one works from a technical point of view but I don't think they actually got some bog standard ordinary USERS to have a go with this before letting it out of the door. If I were coming from W7 the new start menu would send shivers down my spine. Get that fixed ASAP Ms.

    7) Once you select tablet mode there doesn't seem to be any way of going back to desktop mode. (I'm using a Touch laptop fot testing this build).

    Final point although not sure if this is Ms's fault. Latest released of VMware workstation and player -- 3D doesn't get supported even though on my previous release it worked fine so that's probably a VMware fault. Unity is also broken - I like Unity mode and so do some people I test VM's with.

    My instinct is perhaps to skip this build unless you want to play with Cortana. The Start menu is too totally hosed up to use this properly. The Search (you must be able to type say a name of a program without doing an endless scroll whether horizontally or vertically) needs to be fixed too.

    Applications though when you can find them !!! all seem to work correctly.

    So my verdict -- see attached well known project cartoon screen shot below. !!!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2.    24 Jan 2015 #92

    Most of the available features worked much more properly in Build 9901!
    Definitely a work in progress for now.
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  3.    24 Jan 2015 #93

    I'm no longer evaluating the Windows 10 TP, but I was just interested in a couple of the screenshots I saw. The icons seemed a little more 3D, but it also appears that the new build sports simpler caption buttons (min/max/close). Am I seeing this correctly?
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  4. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,917
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       24 Jan 2015 #94

    z3r010 said: View Post
    Cortana doesn't understand a single thing I say lol
    typical on your first date
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  5.    24 Jan 2015 #95

    caperjack said: View Post
    z3r010 said: View Post
    Cortana doesn't understand a single thing I say lol
    typical on your first date
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  6.    24 Jan 2015 #96

    Disk Cleanup seems to be working faster, as it did in the past.
    I don't remember seeing clean up 'System compression' though; (cleans 3.52Gb of space)
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  7. Joined : Nov 2013
    Posts : 804
    10 Pro Preview x64
       24 Jan 2015 #97

    jimbo45 said: View Post

    These are my real problems with this build

    1) No Search (mine doesn't work) on start screen so if I need EXCEL I'm back to scrolling down the menu vertically (well it's a bit better than the endless Horizontal scroll I had in W8/W8.1).
    Works for me.

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    jimbo45 said: View Post
    2) Start menu totally non customiseable on the applications side (left).
    Like this?
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    jimbo45 said: View Post
    3) Start menu far too large on smaller laptops -- about 45% of a 14 inch screen (and why shouldn't I use a 14 inch screen -- nice and portable and reasonably light unlike the normal 16 - 16.5 inch monster laptops you ofen see).
    See your 5th point.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    4) Control panel and settings integration really hosed up -- either have a control panel or have ALL the settings in settings -- it will drive anybody mad to find stuff.
    OK. Got to agree with you there.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    5) can't change text size on screen from settings, (resolution too small - 1368 X 768 as normal laptop. That will p*** a lot of people off). You can fiddle around with right mouse click on the desktop screen area ==>personalisation and it works as before.
    You are probably using a VM. Run it headless and connect through RDP (or on real hardware) and you will find all the resolution issues are OK.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    6) Networking still a bit flakey.
    Not for me.
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  8. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,392
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       24 Jan 2015 #98

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
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    Does it pass a system file check ?
    I haven't tried "sfc" yet (see above).
    The answer is No.

    System File Check gives up after a few seconds.

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  9. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,212
    Windows 10 IoT
       24 Jan 2015 #99

    @Jimbo The new Start Menu/Screen is a big turnoff for me. The messed up search function is no.2 on my list, especially since I can't find anything now. < only a slight exaggeration. I can find what I want but I have to dig for it and settings are scattered all over. First impressions are, "I do not want this". I'll stay with 8.1 thank you very much. I had high hopes and at present I'm really disappointed. On the plus side, it's only a preview and things could change, there is still hope. Time will tell.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 335
    Windows 10x64 15007
       24 Jan 2015 #100

    Inability to really customize the start menu is not good. Preferred how it was in the previous build.
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