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Indianatone said:

Mystere said:

Indianatone said:

There is no audio on Windows Hyper V Windows at all, that is why I went back to VMWare which is far superior in every way and is still free for home use.

That's completely untrue. Audio works just fine if you're using an Enhanced session, because it uses Remote desktop which has always had audio pass through.

OK I stand corrected. I was never able to sort it out about six months ago so assumed it was not supported. Also along the way have spent good money on VMWare Workstation and feel it is superior. Is there a tutorial anywhere on how to get a Creative soundcard working?

Not sure this will fix your problem. You could go to windows catalog sites & search for your sound driver. When I tried to find graphic drivers for my 32 bit windows 7 & windows 10 32 bit preview, I had to download a few of them to try. I had to manually install them. I extracted the files from the cabs. One tip, if you use a 64 bit os, use the AMD64 otherwise use the X86 cabs. It took me awhile to find the correct one, after a few days windows update showed a new graphic driver to download and it worked. At first windows update, it might show you a sound driver that may not install. Sorry about my grammar

unifex said:

What I don't understand is why should the GUI on a desktop, a tablet and a phone be the same. I don't see the need to have two versions of IE (modern and normal) on the same machine. I am using mostly Pale Moon, but IE is still there. In my opinion the "profile" should be tied to the type of hardware, I don't think I want a desktop GUI on my phone, but I certainly don't want to have a phone GUI on my desktop.

Uhhhh..... It seems like you don't actually listen to yourself....

unifex said:

What I don't understand is why should the GUI on a desktop, a tablet and a phone be the same.

Umm.. ok... if you say so... but then in the very next sentence you say...

unifex said:

I don't see the need to have two versions of IE (modern and normal) on the same machine.

How is it exactly that in the same paragraph you can so quickly contradict yourself?

First you say the UI shouldn't be unified.. then you say the UI should be unified (not have more than one version of the browser).

So i'm confused... should the UI be unified, or shouldn't it?

(and before you say "on the same computer", remember that many devices can act in multiple roles, such as the Surface which can be a laptop, tablet, or desktop depending on how you configure it).

Even more ironic, your name is "unifex" which give an air of "unification"... lol.

By the way, there aren't two versions of IE. It's the same version, it just has to ways of operating. The same is true of Chrome which also can run in Modern mode.

And then you go on to say:

unifex said:

I am using mostly Pale Moon, but IE is still there.

So you're perfectly fine with two different kinds of browsers otherwise.... Apparently some choice is good, other choice is bad... when it's something you don't like. What if I don't like having multiple desktop browsers available? So who wins that battle?

Mystere said:

Uhhhh..... It seems like you don't actually listen to yourself....

unifex said:

What I don't understand is why should the GUI on a desktop, a tablet and a phone be the same.

Umm.. ok... if you say so... but then in the very next sentence you say...

unifex said:

I don't see the need to have two versions of IE (modern and normal) on the same machine.

How is it exactly that in the same paragraph you can so quickly contradict yourself?

First you say the UI shouldn't be unified.. then you say the UI should be unified (not have more than one version of the browser).

So i'm confused... should the UI be unified, or shouldn't it?

(and before you say "on the same computer", remember that many devices can act in multiple roles, such as the Surface which can be a laptop, tablet, or desktop depending on how you configure it).

Even more ironic, your name is "unifex" which give an air of "unification"... lol.

By the way, there aren't two versions of IE. It's the same version, it just has to ways of operating. The same is true of Chrome which also can run in Modern mode.

And then you go on to say:

unifex said:

I am using mostly Pale Moon, but IE is still there.

So you're perfectly fine with two different kinds of browsers otherwise.... Apparently some choice is good, other choice is bad... when it's something you don't like. What if I don't like having multiple desktop browsers available? So who wins that battle?

I'm confused... Where exactly have you found a contradiction?

And by the way, Unifex is a character from a book I happen to like...

unifex said:

I'm confused... Where exactly have you found a contradiction?

I thought I made it quite clear... if you don't understand... oh well...

Mystere said:

unifex said:

I'm confused... Where exactly have you found a contradiction?

I thought I made it quite clear... if you don't understand... oh well...

Unless my understanding of the English language is completely different from yours, the two phrases you quoted as contradictory are actually saying the same thing...

_Miles: You seem to have more issues with Win10 than most other TP insiders. I don't have a solid clue why though, only a few educated guesses.

My position on troubleshooting is this:
Start with a known good base.
Your specs say

• host=W8.0 x64
• 4 GB RAM
• guest=W10 x86

I would update to Win8.1 before trying Win10

Make sure VMware player is up to date

Early release software is always in flux (i.e. unstable) - make sure everything else is as stable as possible .

4 GB is fine for one or the other, but might be a little short for both the host and guest to operate efficiently.
I have 6 GB in my laptop and Win10 (3.5 or 4 GB allocated static) in a Hyper-V machine sometimes has memory issues. I think there's a leak, but it's only a gut feeling.

I would probably run the same bit depth x64 host and x64 guest. It shouldn't matter really, but then again ... who knows what's in these preview releases?

If your system specs are out of date and you've already brought your machine up to snuff, I guess the only thing left would be to create a new machine and install Win10 fresh.

You should be able to grab the ESD file from your current Win10 install by following Kari's tutorial
ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File

If you can't bring or keep the Win10 machine up, mount the virtual hard drive (assuming VMware uses vHDs) and pull the file from inside Win8. I guess you can create the ISO using Win8, Kari would know for sure.

I posted an external link to an updated version of the ESD Decrypter tool in Kari's thread and the link also has a link to a ESD. Both Kari and the link I point to use the same tool, just different versions (Kari might have updated his tutorial or made the changes necessary in his scripts).

Alternatively, you could start at the base Win10 ISO and update through the Preview Builds update (PC Settings).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...dows-10-a.html

Once you have the ISO, install it on a new Virtual Machine.

You might have already gone through these steps - the only things I think might be the cause of so many issues is a memory leak in Win10 or it's the 32-bit Win10. I know that 32 bit is not supported for Win10 TP when UEFI is in play ... now that I think of it, my Hyper-V machine set up a virtual UEFI boot.

Good luck,

Bill
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