Post#1-well said Hippsie
This is an interesting exercise. The first TP rls worked best for me overall, probably because it was originally slated as an 8.1 update, changed to be Win9 and finally settled on a Win10 name. What I mean by that is the first release was more of a one off than a new version.
9841 broke some things, and 9860 broke a lot more. This is the nature of preview releases ... it's not even an alpha really.
The ESD update to 9860 tested yet another new thing MS wants to do - I think we're doing MS and ourselves a disservice by 'fixing' this with a DIY .iso (I get it though - we are geeks)
A lot of this is experimental - some of this is patch works (phone/tablet/desktop/xbox) - a lot of it needs careful consideration for the intended audience. MS, in my opinion, is trying to wrench all of it into one package and appease everyone on all devices - that won't work and I've fed them the suggestion to keep Modern/Desktop/Phone/Xbox separate entities.
The Start menu with a mini start screen is the wrong approach
- just give the start menu for those who want that tiny menu.
The Search using a Modern Bing Desktop app is the wrong approach
- give users granularity, search scopes and configuration options (I might want to use Google app or Google search instead of Bing ... heaven forbid!)
- desktop users could care less about Trending now. Oh and if MS insists on Trending now - at least taek me to the trending now article, not another search results on Bing - sheesh how amnay clicks does it take to get the information anyways
- desktop users want to search their machines using a desktop search (that's why it's called desktop )
- desktop users will search the web using a browser or a local search service if given the choice in search scope. I'd like to search my machine and the web sometimes in one task, but mostly I'm looking for stuff on my machine. A search on my machine probably wouldn't find Broadcom xyz driver - it might but I doubt the other member wants my driver.
Making Modern apps behaving like desktop apps is the wrong approach
- why would you need a modern app if it behaves the same way as a desktop app?
- note: I do like that Modern apps actually close instead of suspend when you click the X though.
Making users sign in to a MS account for every modern app sucks. Sure some features are only supported if you're signed in, but make the user sign in if they try to use those features.
- The games solitaire and mahjong need to sign in - really? For points? Awards? Who cares (I'm sure some people do) - I just want to waste some time. MS might be changing this - notice those two games were not included in Bld 9860.
- I want to use an app without having to change my account on my machine (I know I can sign in to apps separately ... sign into apps???? Damn cloud!). I'm tired of typing in the password when Windows forces me to enter a 'new' password switching back to my local account. I have to look into assigned accounts - so this might be just a rant without knowing
I admit that I'm not fully up to speed on the Modern side and find some of the Modern apps have cool features (Explorer has a reader button).
I do like the flat clean look of Modern (most of my machines have very little eye candy anyway).
The Start Screen needs a bit more organization (placement and grouping of tiles).
Live tiles belong on the Start Screen, not the desktop. I turn all of them off (a single switch would be better) - they're like power vampires, sucking up some bandwidth just to tell you what time it is or if it's raining.
So how do I like it? It's a test platform, not much to like or dislike - things will change.
We should remember that 15 March is the end of the preview period, I don't know how many pre-RTM releases will follow. The point I'm trying to make is that it takes time to develop and test changes, so 15 Feb is probably the last opportunity to get something changed. As MS gets closer to the RTM, they'll be more conservative in making changes. Mission critical (Windows just doesn't work) and big players needs will get addressed. Maybe a few sall and easy changes will sneak in.
Every change has to be prioritized, scheduled, developed, tested, and documented.
It's November now - don't wait to provide feedback.
Ok, now I have to report that YouTube videos throw an unexpected error when running from YouTube, but play fine when embedded. Anyone else running a Hyper-V Win10 9860 bld have issues with YouTube? I just noticed that my audio is now turned off (that's happened before and might be VM related - not sure on that.