Is any work around?

Slartybart said:

The distinction is that after 29 July there are two Windows 10
1) Retail
2) Technical Preview (aka evaluation)

Hey Slartybart, question for you: I am still an Insider, and once I had updated to 10240, I switched to the Slow Ring, so I am still on 10240 for the time being, until MS release it to slow ring. Right now, my OS says permanently activated, no expiration date. It looks to me like the same as an upgrade from a qualifying OS, but mine started from a clean install on an empty drive of 9926 and upgraded all the way through to 10240. I don't know how to tell the difference...I think there is a command you can put in the CMD box to get the 10240.xxxxx, but can't remember what that is. Would that be how I tell the difference?

My info looks the same as yours below, except the Flighting Owner GUID is the last line, and is, of course, a different set of characters. Thanks! :)

Slartybart said:

Launch a Command Prompt (Admin) and enter the following command.

reg query HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsSelfhost /s

exit

This is the result from my Preview build machine, I'm not sure what the key=values really mean, but it would be interesting to see what the key=values are on your Retail install.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsSelfhost\Applicability
UXOptions REG_DWORD 0x1
ErrorState REG_DWORD 0x0
LastHR REG_DWORD 0x0
PilotInfoRing REG_DWORD 0x3
FlightingOwnerGUID REG_SZ 6dc60aab-52b3-4001-a1aa-f48298e97033

BranchList REG_SZ {
"Branches":[{
"BranchRings":["WIS","WIF"],"FlightingDisabled":false,"Migrate":"","Name":"th2_release","Platform":"Windows.Desktop"}]
}

RingsList REG_SZ {
"Rings":[{
"Alias":"Fast","Name":"WIF","Order":"1"},{
"Alias":"Slow","Name":"WIS","Order":"2"}]
}

I did a little formatting (new lines) to make it easier to read.

Wynona said:

Well, so much for that thought. I was hoping, though, that somehow he'd slipped out of his Insider shoes.

Good that we have that verified now, as that could have been the problem too!

yufuru said:

Hello,

I will wait for 24 hrs and let you know tomorrow.

Jsu in case, Please let me know what WU and where I could find the software distribution folder.

BR,

Thank you. We will prepare next steps then. In the meantime, please follow Slartybart's request:

Open Administrative Command Prompt.
Enter the following command:

reg query HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsSelfhost /s

Compare your results to what he posted, and tell us if there are any differences, and if so, what exactly they are.

yufuru said:

Hello, I have completed Slartybart's request and results are same except location (Line position) and content of "FlightingOwnerGUID ------ "...
...Please see attached actual capture of comand prompt windowfor confirm. BR,

PS;

The build # of my Windows 10 is build 10240 since around July 10 (? a week or 10 days earlier than official anaunce date JULY 29) and changed to TH1 (?) so, no more build # is displyed on bottom of right corner of screen.

Thank you. Yours, mine and Slartybart's all match, so that is good.

My build 10240 also has no "watermark" in the bottom right corner of the screen. In 10525 the watermark appears again.

KB3062501 is from May for an update to Technical Preview 10074. If could be that it failed because it was not needed.

Do you also have a $Windows.~WS hidden folder?
Do you have a 3rd-party anti-virus program installed?
Do you have a 3rd-party firewall installed?

In the meantime, it might be helpful if you filled in your complete system specs.

Also, you could run a system file checker to make sure everything is in order and ready for the update:



Open an Administrative Command Prompt. Type:

sfc /scannow

Let the scan run, and please tell us if any problems are found.

simrick said:

Thank you. Yours, mine and Slartybart's all match, so that is good.

My build 10240 also has no "watermark" in the bottom right corner of the screen. In 10525 the watermark appears again.

KB3062501 is from May for an update to Technical Preview 10074. If could be that it failed because it was not needed.

Do you also have a $Windows.~WS hidden folder?
Do you have a 3rd-party anti-virus program installed?
Do you have a 3rd-party firewall installed?

In the meantime, it might be helpful if you filled in your complete system specs.

Also, you could run a system file checker to make sure everything is in order and ready for the update:



Open an Administrative Command Prompt. Type:

sfc /scannow

Let the scan run, and please tell us if any problems are found.

Hello,

$Windows -- I can not see it Pls see attached.

3rd-party anti-virus program installed? --- YES. I have installed McAfee.

3rd-party firewall installed? --- YES. McAfee firewall.

However, I have Un-installed McAfee for TEST wheteher it is cuasing or not but did not help to solve this problem even without McAfee.



I have performed a system file check & found/repaired some of files automaticaly.Attachment 33123

Please see "my system specs". I just edit it now.

Thank you & BR,

yufuru said:

Hello,

$Windows -- I can not see it Pls see attached.

3rd-party anti-virus program installed? --- YES. I have installed McAfee.

3rd-party firewall installed? --- YES. McAfee firewall.

However, I have Un-installed McAfee for TEST wheteher it is cuasing or not but did not help to solve this problem even without McAfee.

I have performed a system file check & found/repaired some of files automaticaly.Attachment 33123

Please see "my system specs". I just edit it now.

Thank you & BR,

Thank you very much.
-So, the $Windows. folder is now gone, although it was there before, when you copied the ESD file, correct?
-Please remove all McAfee for now and just use Windows Defender and Firewall.
-Do you have Chrome x64 installed? If so, please remove it and use x86 version.
-Please run sfc /scannow again. We want to receive the message as shown in my screenshot "no integrity violations found". Sometimes they can all be corrected with 2 or 3 runs of sfc /scannow. If not, we may need to run DISM.
-Thanks for filling in your specs.

yufuru said:

Hello,

the $Windows. folder --- YES. Was but gone now. I knew it was because I took "install.esd" souce foldes of YES. I had $Windows.~BT folder.

Okay good, just wanted to make sure.

yufuru said:

MaCfee & Chrome (x64) --- Uninstaleed them and unistalled "IObit Advanced System Care 8.1" & "IObit Malware Fighter" as well for just in case. So, Windows Defender and Firewall are active now.

Thank you. If you have any hard drive monitoring software, you might want to also uninstall that. Even Speccy needs to be uninstalled.

yufuru said:

I have run sfc /scannow 3 times and had message of "no integrity violations found". See attached.

Excellent. And, now if you go check for updates, anything?

yufuru said:

.....
MaCfee & Chrome (x64) --- Uninstaleed them and
unistalled "IObit Advanced System Care 8.1" & "IObit Malware Fighter" as well for just in case.
So, Windows Defender and Firewall are active now.
I have run sfc /scannow 3 times and had message of "no integrity violations found".

I'm catching up to all of the work you and simrick are doing. Thanks.

This is a learning experience for me as well, I am comparing what is on other machines to see how the Insider build 240, the Retail build 240, and the Insider build 525 differ.

I have to go out in a bit, so today is shot for me. I'll check back later tonight.

Please post a screen shot of the output from the following commands, both report in a new window
The key thing, I think, is that the /dlv command shows
Evaluation End Date: 07/15/16 (which is the same date given for the build to expire)
yet, the /xpr command shows
The machine is permanently activated.

Needless to say, things are still in flux on the MS side.

Launch a Command Prompt (Admin)

slmgr /dlv

slmgr /xpr

Here's mine on build 525 (I pasted the /xpr small window on the /dlv window - you can just post the output separately)

On a side note .... I'm glad that you uninstalled the IObit software, yufuru - some IObit products have been known to cause BSOD issues on some machines. As a general rule, I say "Never install a 3rd party tweaker, booster, registry utiltity"
The only ones I trust are from Piriform (cCleaner & Defraggler) and I use them sparingly. If you have other so-called utilities, post what you have installed and a member can advise you on the merit of the tool. Not all are bad, but many, many are harmful. Windows doesn't need these tools.

Speccy has a lot of the information, but there might be utilities members don't know, so if you could identify them, that would be great.

Please follow this tutorial to provide the current operating environment of your machine.
Speccy - Publish Snapshot of your System Specs

Thanks

I'll check back when I get in.

Bill