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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 & WIndows 8.1 64 bits
       21 Aug 2015 #21

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Are you trying to update a Retail install (an upgraded OS) or an Insider install?

    I don't think you can lay 525 on top of a Retail install (an upgraded OS).

    You probably need to dual boot or run a VM for the insider build.
    I do not have clear understan of defference between them but I am member of Insider Preview. So, current Windows 10 (Build 10240) is updated from Build 10162 and original OS was Windows 8.1 pro.Click image for larger version. 

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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,707
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       21 Aug 2015 #22

    yufuru said: View Post
    I do not have clear understan of defference between them but I am member of Insider Preview. So, current Windows 10 (Build 10240) is updated from Build 10162 and original OS was Windows 8.1 pro.Click image for larger version. 

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    Yufuru, go to Settings/Update & Security and then click on "Advanced Options" (circled in my screenie)

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    You should still be an Insider. If you don't see it, you will need to re-subscribe as an Insider if you still wish to be.

    Hope this helps you to understand.
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  3. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,154
    W10Prox64
       21 Aug 2015 #23

    I think he went like this:
    W8.1Pro > Insider TP10162 > RTM10240
    and now he is waiting for 10525.
    He has the $Windows.~BT folder with install.esd, but the ESD is corrupt and he can not make the ISO from it.
    He has toggled from Fast to Slow, rebooted and back to Fast. He will wait now 24-48 hours to see if it tries to install again.
    If nothing happens, maybe next step is to turn WU off, delete the software distribution folder, and restart WU.
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  4. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 & WIndows 8.1 64 bits
       21 Aug 2015 #24

    Wynona said: View Post
    Yufuru, go to Settings/Update & Security and then click on "Advanced Options" (circled in my screenie)

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    You should still be an Insider. If you don't see it, you will need to re-subscribe as an Insider if you still wish to be.

    Hope this helps you to understand.
    Thank you for your attention and I am still an insider.

    BR.Click image for larger version. 

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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,707
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       21 Aug 2015 #25

    simrick said: View Post
    I think he went like this:
    W8.1Pro > Insider TP10162 > RTM10240
    and now he is waiting for 10525.
    He has the $Windows.~BT folder with install.esd, but the ESD is corrupt and he can not make the ISO from it.
    He has toggled from Fast to Slow, rebooted and back to Fast. He will wait now 24-48 hours to see if it tries to install again.
    If nothing happens, maybe next step is to turn WU off, delete the software distribution folder, and restart WU.
    OK . . . I was going on the premise that he didn't understand how he got to where he was. And was trying to help him understand at least that part.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,707
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       21 Aug 2015 #26

    Wynona said: View Post
    OK . . . I was going on the premise that he didn't understand how he got to where he was. And was trying to help him understand at least that part.
    Well, so much for that thought. I was hoping, though, that somehow he'd slipped out of his Insider shoes.
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  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 15
    Windows 10 & WIndows 8.1 64 bits
       21 Aug 2015 #27

    simrick said: View Post
    I think he went like this:
    W8.1Pro > Insider TP10162 > RTM10240
    and now he is waiting for 10525.
    He has the $Windows.~BT folder with install.esd, but the ESD is corrupt and he can not make the ISO from it.
    He has toggled from Fast to Slow, rebooted and back to Fast. He will wait now 24-48 hours to see if it tries to install again.
    If nothing happens, maybe next step is to turn WU off, delete the software distribution folder, and restart WU.
    Hello,

    I will wait for 24 hrs and let you know tomorrow.

    Jsu in case, Please let me know what WU and where I could find the software distribution folder.

    BR,
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       21 Aug 2015 #28

    The distinction is that after 29 July there are two Windows 10
    1) Retail
    This is what most people want and is what a system has after upgrading a qualifying OS.

    2) Technical Preview (aka evaluation)
    This is what people use to test development code as it is released to Insiders.

    I dual boot Retail (upgraded from 8.1) and Insider (currently 10.0.525)

    The real difference is
    Windows Updates to a Retail install have gone through more rigorous testing, the same as previous versions of Windows / Windows updates.

    Windows Updates to an Insider install are hot-off-the presses and have not been tested as thoroughly. Insiders are a big part of testing updates that eventually get delivered to Retail installs. These releases and updates can be very buggy. It is pre-release software.

    I recommend keeping the two separate.

    Launch a Command Prompt (Admin) and enter the following command.

    reg query HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsSelfhost /s
    exit

    This is the result from my Preview build machine, I'm not sure what the key=values really mean, but it would be interesting to see what the key=values are on your Retail install.

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsSelfhost\Applicability
    UXOptions REG_DWORD 0x1
    ErrorState REG_DWORD 0x0
    LastHR REG_DWORD 0x0
    PilotInfoRing REG_DWORD 0x3
    FlightingOwnerGUID REG_SZ 6dc60aab-52b3-4001-a1aa-f48298e97033

    BranchList REG_SZ {
    "Branches":[{
    "BranchRings":["WIS","WIF"],"FlightingDisabled":false,"Migrate":"","Name":"th2_release","Platform":"Windows.Desktop"}]
    }

    RingsList REG_SZ {
    "Rings":[{
    "Alias":"Fast","Name":"WIF","Order":"1"},{
    "Alias":"Slow","Name":"WIS","Order":"2"}]
    }

    I did a little formatting (new lines) to make it easier to read.
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  9. Joined : Apr 2015
    Posts : 9,154
    W10Prox64
       21 Aug 2015 #29

    Wynona said: View Post
    Well, so much for that thought. I was hoping, though, that somehow he'd slipped out of his Insider shoes.
    Yes, I was thinking that too at first, because it has happened to some people. But he mentioned he had the $Windows.~BT folder with the ESD file in it, so the computer was indeed trying to update to 10525, but was failing. I read somewhere that 0x80240031 error indicates a damaged file.

    Although Slartybart may be on to something here...
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,707
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       21 Aug 2015 #30

    simrick said: View Post
    Yes, I was thinking that too at first, because it has happened to some people. But he mentioned he had the $Windows.~BT folder with the ESD file in it, so the computer was indeed trying to update to 10525, but was failing. I read somewhere that 0x80240031 error indicates a damaged file.

    Although Slartybart may be on to something here...
    Yeah, Bill's a pretty great troubleshooter; he, I, GreggRocker and a few others tried to troubleshoot my original HP Lappy 17 that was failing. It croaked before we got there, but it was already older'n dirt. We all learned a lot, though.
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