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  1. Posts : 13,566
    Windows10
       #11

    The most important test is to check the file deletion bug has been eliminated.

    To do this takes a bit of effort e.g. in a virtul machine NOT connected to internet:-

    1) install 1803
    2) shrink C drive and create a D drive (ntfs)
    3) Create a folder d:\documents
    4) Put a simple text file, FileC.txt in c:\documents
    5) Put a simple text file, FileD.txt in D:\Documents
    6) Redirect C:\documents to D:\documents from folder properties, selecting NOT to transfer file from C to D.
    7) Upgrade either via update or by mounting new 1809 iso and running setup.exe keep everything.
    8) After upgrade, check if FileC.txt and FileD.txt still exist.
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  2. Posts : 56,050
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #12

    Intentional Double Post


    Honest question....

    Why is this in the Windows Insider Thread?
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  3. Posts : 13,566
    Windows10
       #13

    f14tomcat said:
    Honest question....

    Why is this in the Windows Insider Thread?
    You can do most of the tests now with the Insider Slow Ring build. But your point is a fair one if one waits for release build.
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  4. Posts : 56,050
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #14

    cereberus said:
    You can do most of the tests now with the Insider Slow Ring build. But your point is a fair one if one waits for release build.
    General public is not likely to visit the Insider Threads. Nor would Non-Insiders. Guess that was my point.
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  5. Posts : 29,075
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
    Thread Starter
       #15

    f14tomcat said:
    Honest question....

    Why is this in the Windows Insider Thread?
    Well, kinda because it's been relegated back to the Insiders (a little belatedly) to test. In order to test the "fix", I had to change my Production partition to Insider. If we'd been allowed to test the release version before they prematurely released it . . .
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  6. Posts : 24,562
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #16

    f14tomcat said:
    General public is not likely to visit the Insider Threads. Nor would Non-Insiders. Guess that was my point.
    I guess the point of putting it here is that Insiders are probably best qualified to answer Dalchina's question that opened this thread: "Is anyone ready with a list of focussed tests/checks to run on the build when it does come out?"

    Technically, I'm a 'non-Insider' but I 'visited'. TBH, I find there are more than enough bugs on release in each Features Update to keep me busy, so why would I want to become an Insider?

    Wynona said:
    I would say that whether the next Build flights this week or whenever, Dalchina's questions are important and I would like to see your answers, if you please . . .
    How do you hunt for unknown bugs in a newly released Features Update? Well my approach is to upgrade my main machine on day one of release then use it 24/7 for all my normal activities until something breaks. For 1607 that was almost straight away. This led me to TenForums as the only place on the whole web that had identified the problem I'd seen with metered connections.

    Windows Update (WU) finds Defender definition updates, but seems to hang downloading 0%
    There is no message re: metered ... will download later ...
    Set Wireless Network as Metered or Non-Metered in Windows 10 - Page 6 - | Tutorials

    For 1803 it 'broke' pretty quickly too, at least for the 32-bit version...
    1803 creating a system image fails with RPC server error 0x800706BA - Windows 10 Forums
    (still not fixed, BTW)

    I'd also like to see how each one prepares for each new Build: Of course, the number one item on the list is to backup, backup, backup; which backer upper do you use?

    All my user data is backed up to an external drive, monthly 'Full', bi-weekly 'Incremental'. I have a batch command file that uses RoboCopy to do that. Separately I make system images after each Patch Tuesday, keeping several previous builds (including some of the earlier versions, 1803, 1709, etc). That's sufficient to cover me if a Features Update turns 'rogue'. Up until the 1803 'system imaging bug' above I'd used Backup & Restore for system imaging, but then I switched to Macrium and wouldn't use anything else now.

    Funnily enough, apart from the 'big one' (which didn't affect me) I'd have said the first public release of 1809 was one of the least 'buggy' features updates I've seen. Well, nothing has broken yet and I've been using it daily since 2nd October.

    Looking forward to testing '1809 - take 2' as/when it arrives...
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  7. Posts : 12,420
    Win10 Version 21H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro
       #17

    I'm not having any unusual problems with Windows 10 Version 1809 Build 17763.55 on 2 Desktops and 2 Notebooks, got Build 17763.1 before being pulled and updated to build 17763.55 pretty soon after. I was able to download the .iso files for both x86 and x64 on 10/3 plus create the bootable USB drive.
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  8. Posts : 56,050
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #18

    Then I guess the consensus is Insiders are better qualified to test Post-Release Builds.

    Thanks for all the answers.
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  9. Posts : 29,075
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
    Thread Starter
       #19

    f14tomcat said:
    Then I guess the consensus is Insiders are better qualified to test Post-Release Builds.

    Thanks for all the answers.
    Actually, TC, I thought I was throwing out a request for general "what do you do and how" that would include 1809.xxx.

    As has been brought out by a couple or three technical journalists, we Insiders "normally" get the "Release Candidate" awhile before it's shipped out to the general public for a final bug check. However, with 1809, Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to bypass us. Whoops!

    I believe this is my first instance of a final Build going RTM and then being returned as an Insider Preview, so it's rather confusing, to say the least.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I'll bet Microsoft never bypasses the Insiders like this again, and that they'll be a little more careful from here . . . maybe, possibly, d'ya think? . . .
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  10. Posts : 19,209
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #20

    f14tomcat said:
    Honest question....

    Why is this in the Windows Insider Thread?
    Because insiders have most incentive to back up system, backing up "dirty" and unreliable system doesn't help much so to ensure it's worth backing up you need to check it.
    There's also better chance for new build to install if system is clean and safe.
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