Windows 10: When FCC Kills Net Neutrality, Here's What Internet Could Look Like

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  1. Posts : 482
    Win 10 pro Upgraded from 8.1
       21 Dec 2017 #120

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    I just don't remember things being all that bad on June 11, 2015...
    I have to agree, so we actually are going back to where we were 2 years ago, with an unregulated internet. I'm for less government regulation anytime, Trying not to be political but as NavyLDCR says I don't remember it being so bad 2 years ago.
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  2.    21 Dec 2017 #121

    Not yet in the US perhaps. Problems already exist NZ, AUS and in some parts of Europe though. Netflix is excluded from your cap. Some data is prioritized.

    Net neutrality: why are Americans so worried about it being scrapped? | Technology | The Guardian

    Big companies (like Netflix) can say they don't give a shit any more. My small (imaginary) company providing the same service is screwed. Netflix bandwidth is excluded from your cap, my company isn't, who you going to go for? Netflix obviously.

    Think about it - why do all the big companies (Google, FaceBook, Netflix etc) say Net Neutrality is not needed? Because the ISP would look bad not them.

    More to the point when did they say it? When they were small startups or when they were behemoths?
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  3. Posts : 984
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       21 Dec 2017 #122

    They shut down Net Neutrality. They did not shut down the 'FCC'.

    To me that means things are still being watched by the 'FCC' to see if further action is needed.

    Jack
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    W10 Pro 64, version 1709
       22 Dec 2017 #123

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    I specifically chose Safety Regulations as most people can grasp the concept.
    A significant percentage of US citizens can't grasp the concept of Consumer Protection Regulations.......
    I have no problem with the concept of consumer protection regulations within reason, but there's also a significant percentage of citizens who don't recognize that there's such a thing as overkill, and bureaucracies frequently cross that line if not kept in check.

    Years ago I worked in a tire factory, and every year OSHA would go through the factory looking for safety issues, and when they couldn't find any real problems, they invented problems.......they nit picked stupid things that were not safety hazards at all, and insisted the company fix them to meet Osha's demands. Overkill. Senseless red tape to fix a non issue.
    Bureaucrats do things like that.

    Like I said before, there's a time and place for consumer protection regulations, but regulations just for the sake of regulations is overkill and does more harm than good.
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  5.    22 Dec 2017 #124

    DC10 said: View Post
    Years ago I worked in a tire factory, and <snip>
    Presumably you didn't give free tires to Netflix subscribers though.

    I don't think there is a real problem in most of the world yet (unless you live in Portugal, Ireland, Australia or whatever) but it is fairly obvious there is a potential problem and it does in fact already affect some people.
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       22 Dec 2017 #125

    lx07 said: View Post
    Presumably you didn't give free tires to Netflix subscribers though.

    I don't think there is a real problem in most of the world yet (unless you live in Portugal, Ireland, Australia or whatever) but it is fairly obvious there is a potential problem and it does in fact already affect some people.
    A lot of analysis dismiss time component. Problems today are different that those 5 years ago (or when neutrality act was first enforced..)

    Five years ago there was much more infrastructure problem than today. And we have some issues with neglecting private customers so that business could have their bandwidth.

    Today, bandwidth is not much of a problem, earning money on consumer information is... (you already have that in US - every ISP can sell your data), but this is lost battle already.

    In big countries, there is still infrastructure problem, which is also a problem of consolidating providers. It's a jungle out there.
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  7. Posts : 2,489
    Windows 10 Pro x64 1803 - 17134.5 XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       22 Dec 2017 #126

    The small things that are seen by many as petty "for the sake of it" rules and checks can be rather important - In a steel plant I did some work in some years ago there was a rule in one plant that all forklifts had to have guard rails that needed to be lifted before a driver could exit - this seemed very petty to a lot of people until the reason for the rule was explained - One day in the Blast Furnace area a driver had a problem with a load and without thinking had jumped out of the truck to sort things out, he did not land on the floor but in one of the channels full of molten Iron that were used in the initial transfer process - They never recovered any remains - The rule means that the driver has to look down into the area they will be going into and are less likely to land somewhere they do not want to
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  8.    22 Dec 2017 #127

    For the want of a nail the shoe was lost I suppose.
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  • Posts : 1,703
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.3 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home 1703 (64 bit), W10 Pro 1703 (64 bit) VM
       22 Dec 2017 #128

    DC10 said: View Post
    Like I said before, there's a time and place for consumer protection regulations, but regulations just for the sake of regulations is overkill and does more harm than good.
    Ask any business and they will claim they are over-regulated and yet every few years a new scandal breaks (especially in the Financial sector).

    Despite the constant howls about how the banking sector is over-regulated, here in Australia our biggest bank got caught laundering $600M for organised crime (53000 times over several years).

    lx07 said: View Post
    I don't think there is a real problem in most of the world yet (unless you live in Portugal, Ireland, Australia or whatever) but it is fairly obvious there is a potential problem and it does in fact already affect some people.
    That is the real problem for us.

    The traitorous scum in our Parliament will say, "we must do it because that's what the US does."

    They recently tried to secretly sign a document that said US Law overrides our Australian Law.
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  •    22 Dec 2017 #129

    I cant see how anybody would think this is a good idea unless your a corporate shrill.
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