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dencal said:

More knowledge = speculation = experimentation = f**k ups = finding out faults = gaining more knowledge....ad infinitum....

I like this one. :)

In the case I mentioned this does however not apply since system is used as stated in MS own educational documents for certification. No experimentation involved and system used exactly as intended and designed yet things does NOT work.

@HipsieGypsie

Great research!

Alpha/Beta are more of externally visual release cycle terms.

While xxx-testing (Unit- etc...) is internal code structure testing, starting from the simplest code block input/output values to a full fledged system with multiple applications talking to each other. Only developers or users really close to the developers and access to full documentations and specifications should be involved in those. Most of the tests are automated tests written in code, but some can only be done manually or is very difficult to implement in code.

A few remarks

1) For whatever reason, the buildfeed.net is down right now. When it comes back up the latest canary will be what they are considering.

2) Perhaps the question could be raised at the next Insider broadcast on I believe the 13th. What Dona is describing as "self-host tests" would seem to be the "scientific" testing people are talking about. What, besides automated stress tests, this entails it "might" be possible to teases out of them - but I doubt it.

HippsieGypsie said:

Which are familiar? The 7 that are listed?



So are you saying that these terms are recent definitions? Let's say as recent as 5 years? 10 years?

At least 20 years old terms. (this is as far as I can remember) But those terms became more common when programmers and companies started to emphasise the importance of unit testing and multitasking operating systems became a norm.

Edit: Alpha and Beta has existed at least since 30 years ago. (can't remember longer than that)

HippsieGypsie said:

Which are familiar? The 7 that are listed?



So are you saying that these terms are recent definitions? Let's say as recent as 5 years? 10 years?

Yes the seven. The alpha, beta descriptions came into common use later to refer to development states rather than testing states. As insiders we are really just doing extended acceptance testing.

Here is a very over simplified Unit-test:

Code:

int valueA = 1;
int valueB = 3;
int expectedResult = 4;

bool SumReturnsCorrectResult(int valueA, int valueB, int expectedResult)
{
   int actualResult = Sum(valueA, valueB);
   
   return Assert(expectedResult, actualResult);
}

And here is the actual code to be tested:

Code:

int Sum(int A, int B)
{
   return A + B;
}

The function SumReturnsCorrectResult will return TRUE in this case.

kado897 said:

Yes the seven. The alpha, beta descriptions came into common use later to refer to development states rather than testing states. As insiders we are really just doing extended acceptance testing.

I disagree - we were using alpha/beta terms in late 60's, early 70s when main languages were Fortran and Cobol!