Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17046 for PC Insider

Edwin · 22 Nov 2017

bordi said:

I've tried upgrading, fresh install, formatting the hard disc, always the same result.
can't get past the frozen windows logo to the spinning/circling dots

Same.

flybynite · 23 Nov 2017

Fisher Mann said:

Download install and ISO went fine but for the fourth time after the Hi screen I get a GSOD and a restart plus a drive check by Windows. After that Start came and went and came back, Background was missing (actually jumbled up) so reinstalled Intel driver. After three restarts things have smoothed out but it was a rough build install.

It went smoothly for me. Very nice indeed.

Tony K · 23 Nov 2017

LEOPEVA64 said:

After changing the size of the Start menu and the tiles several times, my Start menu was completely blocked, it does not open in any way, I used several solutions and tutorials that I found, including this Start Menu Troubleshooter, but nothing worked, I decided to go back to the previous version and for some reason the problem was moved to the previous build, finally I had to use one of the images of the system, I will reinstall this build with the ISO and I hope not to have the same problem again.

I had a choppy Start menu at first in the last build. It calmed down after awhile.

This tutorial worked in FCU, but couldn't get to work with a clean install of 17040 nor in this upgraded build. It's a PITA restructuring Start screen in IP upgrades and fresh installs! The most frustrating aspect of updating!

Backup and Restore Start Layout in Windows 10 Backup Restore Tutorials

Tony K · 23 Nov 2017

The old inch worm Acer is updating. I'll leave it run while I go snooze.

Kari · 23 Nov 2017

Kari said:

Yes, Macrium Image Guardian is OK and does not cause any issues. It's just CBT (Changed Block Tracker) in build 17035 or later that's causing an issue.

Fast fix is to modify Reflect installation, disable CBT and reboot.

cereberus said:

Yeah - I have both disabled but will probably reactivate MIG.

TBH I do not really know what CBT does. From its description, it seems to be geared towards the corporate market. My backups and restores are perfectly adequate in terms of speed for my needs. I am more than happy to disable CBT in the meantime if that keeps FOD working. Of course, Macrium Reflect CBT issue will be fixed long before RS4 is released.

I was wrong, the issue is fixed. Both Image Guardian and CBT are fully working in 17046, not breaking OneDrive Files on Demand anymore. Issue only exists in builds 17035 and 17040.

About CBT:

Macrium Reflect Changed Block Tracker (MRCBT) reduces the amount of time it takes to perform incremental and differential images by monitoring the changes to an NTFS formatted volume in real-time. This is especially relevant when a file system contains very large files, such as virtual hard disk (VHD) files, where speed improvements are significant and can reduce the Incremental image time from hours to minutes or even seconds.

More: Macrium Changed Block Tracker - KnowledgeBase - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

kado897 · 23 Nov 2017

Kari said:

I was wrong, the issue is fixed. Both Image Guardian and CBT are fully working in 17046, not breaking OneDrive Files on Demand anymore. Issue only exists in builds 17035 and 17040.

About CBT:

More: Macrium Changed Block Tracker - KnowledgeBase - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

it's not much good if you regularly shut your PC down as the information is not retained across windows sessions. This makes it useless for most home users.

cereberus · 23 Nov 2017

Kari said:

I was wrong, the issue is fixed. Both Image Guardian and CBT are fully working in 17046, not breaking OneDrive Files on Demand anymore. Issue only exists in builds 17035 and 17040

Great, I am glad to hear it. Thanks for CBT post - better description than I saw elsewhere. I only really use incremental s when I am trying something and want to quickly backup current state e.g. some regedits (with rapid delta restore, this is a really quick way to roll back - I have system restore switched off now).

So in the end, issue was a Windows 10 not Macrium issue.

cereberus · 23 Nov 2017

kado897 said:

it's not much good if you regularly shut your PC down as the information is not retained across windows sessions. This makes it useless for most home users.

I think I will leave CBT off. It is one complexity I do not need to risk, as I will not get any significant benefit with my usage - as I said originally option seems more geared to corporate use.

kado897 · 23 Nov 2017

cereberus said:

I think I will leave CBT off. It is one complexity I do not need to risk, as I will not get any significant benefit with my usage - as I said originally option seems more geared to corporate use.

I ran it for a while when it first came out as I use daily differentials and the occasion incremental. Even though at the time I wasn't shutting down daily I found that I still had to do the odd restart which stopped it in it's tracks for the differentials until the next full backup. It didn't make much difference anyway so I disabled it.

cereberus · 23 Nov 2017

kado897 said:

I ran it for a while when it first came out as I use daily differentials and the occasion incremental. Even though at the time I wasn't shutting down daily I found that I still had to do the odd restart which stopped it in it's tracks for the differentials until the next full backup. It didn't make much difference anyway so I disabled it.

I do not want to risk image integrity (for which Reflect is undisputedly the Heavyweight Champion if the World) with a feature that does not appear to be reliable.

So off it stays for time being.