Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Fast+Skip Build 17017 for PC Insider

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  1. Posts : 15,441
    Windows10
       #500

    martyfelker said:
    It is a bit surprising that MS does not itself make the changes to the registry to make "Skippy go away". Guess they are nostaglic for useless code.

    So where is the non-Skippy Fast ring release. Bet they are still laboring, not over the code, but the PC way to approach talking about the problems with 17017, which remember, started when it was released to the update servers without a bit of "required code" or some such
    I showed earlier if you join Fast Ring on 16299.15 it updates to 17017.
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  2. Posts : 15,441
    Windows10
       #501

    magilla said:
    I have now wiped my drive clean, reformatted it, removed partitions windows used and attempted to install from iso the 17017.1000 and upon initial install startup, I am greeted with a BSOD with message that page fault error ref volsnap.sys. Nothing is on the disk. So, definitely a problem with this build’s own copy of volsnap.sys. I used the iso made from one of my computers which installed 17017. Go figure.
    as @Kari said, I just can’t stop till I’m successful or totally stumped.
    Look back a few posts - one poster gave link for downloading volsnap.sys from 17004 which seems to sort issue.

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  3. Posts : 889
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #502

    cereberus said:
    Look back a few posts - one poster gave link for downloading volsnap.sys from 17004 which seems to sort issue.

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    My 17017 seems working with volsnap.sys from 16299.19.
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  4. Posts : 5,833
    Dual boot Windows 10 FCU Pro x 64 & current Insider 10 Pro
       #503

    cereberus said:
    It really is simple - everybody gets reverted to Fast Ring as Skippy is now closed. The message is a hangover from when there were two sub branches.

    For clarity, Skippy no longer exists, only the Fast Ring - end of story.

    Setting skippy settings has NO effect any more until maybe a few months down the line when early development of RS5 is underway.
    Not so fast. You talk as if it’s an absolute. There is such a thing as cause and effect.

    Why does keeping the skip ahead selected grey out the ring choice that’s set to fast ring, whereas the non-skippy gives a choice of fast or slow? Is that not an “effect”?

    Perhaps there may be no effect so far as not getting rs_5 of yet as you say, but along with what Marty commented about the Registry settings, I’m quite sure systems are still registered as such on a server in queue. I dare not change it for it may get deregistered and the registry hack might not work forever. Sooner or later they may grey that out as well. So, since this is all new, I’m staying put.

    For clarity, in a real sense Skippy is still active.
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  5. Posts : 17,661
    Windows 10 Pro
       #504

    HippsieGypsie said:
    For clarity, in a real sense Skippy is still active.
    Skippy is very much alive. It's just that for some time now, normal Fast ring and Skippy will be the same, separating again closer to RS4 release date.
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  6. Posts : 4,666
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1 Build 19043.1151 (Branch: Release Preview)
       #505

    About the difference between Fast Ring and Skip Ahead. There should also be other differences between them. In skippy all inbox apps should be reinstalled to the latest beta version, while on norml Fast Ring Windows should remember what inbox apps the user has removed.

    I can't verify if this works right now, as I don't have any machine on Fast Ring (2 x physical PC are on Release Preview and 1 VM on Skip Ahead). If someone can test and verify my theory, it would be highly appreciated.
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  7. Posts : 243
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit Ver 21H2 Build 2200.258
       #506

    I have just started getting GSOD & BSOD same error after latest upgrade to Windows Insider 17017.rs prerelease weird I was on Slow Release!. It is the volsnap.sys error a lot of people are having.

    I have a WIn 10 Pro 64bit USB Recovery but it is about 12 months old.
    I also have access to a laptop same version of Windows 10 Pro 64bit.

    I have 2 issues I do not have windows.old to get files from on the affected PC. I removed it as it was running fine and needed the space (i know stupid) but never had an issue with a slow release before.

    I have seen a few reports on how to fix it by copying the volsnap.sys from the old windows directory but I do not have one

    So I thought I would get a copy from my laptop but then see it comes from the driver folder in windows and my laptop drivers are different to my main desktop.

    But I do not want to do a new install I want to keep all my apps folders and settings if possible any suggestions, please.

    Desperate Dale
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  8. Posts : 19,516
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #507

    Seems that I can't rejoin Skippy since I did clean install of 16299.15 updated to .19. Option is there but doesn't stick, as soon I set it and leave page it gets turned off. I set it to fast and it started installation of 17017 but it never finishes. That kinda proves that Skippy and Fast are merged but I don't know for how long it will be like that. Other computer that also started from 16299.15 is staying on Skippy but updated without any problems to 17017. At least I have a vay to make ISO when next Skippy/Fast arrives. Both computers are under same account.
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  9. Posts : 15,441
    Windows10
       #508

    Kari said:
    Skippy is very much alive. It's just that for some time now, normal Fast ring and Skippy will be the same, separating again closer to RS4 release date.
    This is just supposition (i.e. your opinion) - we do not know if MS will resurrect skippy in future, or if they remove option time being in next upgrade, whether registry edit will work in future etc. Menus may change etc.

    For time being, it is FACT that the rings have merged. So for time being there is no difference whatsoever, and settings in menus are irrelevant until MS decide to do something.
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  10. Posts : 4
    Windows 10 Skip ahead
       #509

    thorrrr said:
    I have just started getting GSOD & BSOD same error after latest upgrade to Windows Insider 17017.rs prerelease weird I was on Slow Release!. It is the volsnap.sys error a lot of people are having.

    I have a WIn 10 Pro 64bit USB Recovery but it is about 12 months old.
    I also have access to a laptop same version of Windows 10 Pro 64bit.

    I have 2 issues I do not have windows.old to get files from on the affected PC. I removed it as it was running fine and needed the space (i know stupid) but never had an issue with a slow release before.

    I have seen a few reports on how to fix it by copying the volsnap.sys from the old windows directory but I do not have one

    So I thought I would get a copy from my laptop but then see it comes from the driver folder in windows and my laptop drivers are different to my main desktop.

    But I do not want to do a new install I want to keep all my apps folders and settings if possible any suggestions, please.

    Desperate Dale
    Try this perhaps assuming you have access to usb, dvd, and another Windows 10 install disc. Download from post 471 onto usb. Plug usb into your pc. Boot pc to load from dvd w10 other disc, choosing repair my pc and nav to command prompt to then use copy function. See post 444 2nd fix obviously changing the ? to point to your applicable locations and also change path as necessary.

    Ian
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